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When I was a young pastor, an older man in my church, a leader of the loud opinionated sort told me approvingly that he knew I'd be a good pastor because I drove a modest automobile.
He drove a Cadillac.
what do you drive now, a Volt?
Could be, I drive a 2002 Ford p/u, it isn't easy on the gas but I use it for what it is for. Plus, my dogs like sticking their heads out the window and look down. Not often they can look down on another dog. (A pair of Jacks)Off subject, but I'll take a guess and see if sister Anne will elaborate.
My guess is a 2005 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo or a similar model SUV.
Am I close sister?
Could be, I drive a 2002 Ford p/u, it isn't easy on the gas but I use it for what it is for. Plus, my dogs like sticking their heads out the window and look down. Not often they can look down on another dog. (A pair of Jacks)
Hi everyone- hoping this falls under theology. I am seeking answers to a current topic I am studying. I believe that pastors should be taken very good care of and that they deserve to be comfortable and well paid. However, I just found out my pastor lives in a $1,700,000 house, etc, etc and I look at needs in our church and ministries within it and wonder if this is godly. Part of me says, "look at Solomon" and part of me is disappointed. Any guidance on scriptures to support this extravagance? I work really hard for my money and I want to know my tithe and offerings are truly going to God's work. Thanks.
I'm not against women having positions in ministry in all cases, but women as pastor/leaders tend to be domineering over their husbands. This is how you know that it is unscriptural, any time a woman takes spiritual leadership over her husband, the design God intended for marriage is corrupted.
Sadly many men abdicate this leadership, leaving a void that the women of todays culture often gladly fill. And perhaps that is better than no leadership at all, women are picking up the slack for the men.
But the fact remains that Paul relies on God's design at creation and of the original sin and curse of sin for his reason to reject female leadership. It is not a cultural thing, that is a cheap answer. The Law of Moses and the culture of the Hebrew nation did not develop until long long long after the garden of Eden. Whenever women justify their leadership position as the call of God it should always be viewed in light of the LACK of male leadership. It is not about culture it is about the fundamentals of human nature as God intended.
(you are right that this is off topic, but all topics do stray after a few pages-- and I did not raise the issue..... a troll did it!)
but i agree, i think some female pastors can behave in a rather shrewish manner, which is totally inappropriate.
Job was a really wealthy man, but it did not impact the kind of Christian he was, and we know this because God put his faith through the test, and he passed with flying colors.
i mean as long as the pastor bought the house with his own money, i do not think he should be condemned for it.
i do not understand why so many Christians want to put restrictions on their pastors in such a manner?
I now drive a 2008 Mercury Milan.
In between the Ford Festiva that my Cadillac-driving parishioner so admired and the Milan, I drove a Ford Aerostar Minivan (the better to take the Youth Group and the Church Ladies to various events, my dear).
I had to dump my beloved minivan when I moved to the big city though. Not enough room to park it.
My point (if anybody cares) was that parishioners' attitudes toward their pastors are much like the attitudes of parents in affluent white suburban school districts: they want their servants (in this case pastors and school teachers) to be well-paid. Just not quite as well-paid as they, themselves are.
How 'bout all ministers live in the members homes with a meager monthly stipend. This will filter out the chaff from the wheat. Members and ministers would be tested in their faith. Isn't that how it use to be done?
That's fine if you want a single pastor without an education.
Congregants use to vie for the privilege to care for the minister; meals, housing, clothing, etc.. Times have changed, maybe for the better. Many prefer to only see the minister once a week at a distance.
Even in an expensive area, I'm not sure that a $1,700,000 home would qualify as a "modest" house.
Congregants use to vie for the privilege to care for the minister; meals, housing, clothing, etc.. Times have changed, maybe for the better. Many prefer to only see the minister once a week at a distance.
,Nope, they have their own homes and salary. Guess you don't either, for whatever reason.How many have you had as guest in your home, LL. I expect you provide free meals, housing, clothing, etc. to them all the time since it's such a privilege.
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