Organizing an underground church in the west

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Nice story.

Yes. Some of us enjoy reading and learning facts about the world and history.

I suppose other people enjoy engaging in empty-headed twaddle.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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The book is the revealing of Christ. His revelation.
 
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Yes. Some of us enjoy reading and learning facts about the world and history.

I suppose other people enjoy engaging in empty-headed twaddle.

-CryptoLutheran
So does this mean you oppose the antichrist laws on Sodomism?
 
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This is not about just the US. Nor about whether governments are increasingly antichrist.

Alright, then if I go move to a country that does have laws restricting Christian worship and practice, I'll make sure to keep your warnings in mind. Though I wasn't planning a vacation to Saudi Arabia or Iran.

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Schools and churches will be sued and affected. Not up for discussion.
 
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The book is the revealing of Christ. His revelation.

Yes, but the book is called the Revelation of St. John.

The Gospel of St. Mark isn't the Gospel about Mark, but the Gospel about Christ, but it's still called "The Gospel of Mark".

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So does this mean you oppose the antichrist laws on Sodomism?

What antichrist laws? Perhaps you could name one? Though it seemed you couldn't before.

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Alright, then if I go move to a country that does have laws restricting Christian worship and practice, I'll make sure to keep your warnings in mind. Though I wasn't planning a vacation to Saudi Arabia or Iran.

-CryptoLuthearn
No one asked you where you planned to travel. Some churches feel fine with tolerance of a tibial sin. So far I don't see much about where you stand. Cut the blather and whining and contribute.
 
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And what proof do you have for this?

He said it wasn't up for discussion. So of course he doesn't have proof, it is because he said it. I mean, like, duh.

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Says you. I disagree that believers should surrender all that they have and worked for, and that God gave them like dumb sheep.
They didn't surrender. If they surrendered then they would have renounced their faith but they didn't. Losing the building you traditionally worship in is not surrendering. When has church ever equaled building?
 
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No one asked you where you planned to travel.

So you're not interested in my possible vacation plans? Too bad, because I was thinking that perhaps you and I could have ourselves a little getaway to Barbados.

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Yes, but the book is called the Revelation of St. John.

The Gospel of St. Mark isn't the Gospel about Mark, but the Gospel about Christ, but it's still called "The Gospel of Mark".

-CryptoLutheran
Since you missed the most important fact about the book, I pointed it out.
 
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Oh? Shuts you down? Why would they? Do you preach against abortion and Sodomism?
Just because I don't believe the government has the power to shut down traditional Christians churches today doesn't mean they won't have that power in the future.
 
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Just because I don't believe the government has the power to shut down traditional Christians churches today doesn't mean they won't have that power in the future.
Being shut down is not the concern. The concern would be having to comply with bad rules.
 
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That's why the persecuted church meets in secret aka underground because they no longer follow or comply with the rules set up by the government. Usually the laws include terms of "you are not allowed to be Christian".
Persecuted includes forced compliance with bad laws.
 
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