Ohio dad writes check to school using Common Core math

seashale76 · Sep 20, 2015

Audacious said:
Common core doesn't tell you how to teach, it tells you what to teach. Which is completely different

Exactly. It's simply curriculum standards.

ETA- There is no reason why the entire country shouldn't have the same curriculum standards. A student should be able to move around to all fifty states and be able to know that there is an expectation that they will cover the same things at the same grade level wherever they go.

pat34lee · Sep 20, 2015

rambot said:
A new way to learn something??? That's just as bad as learning something new. The teachers I know (and I know a couple dozen) ALL say that once you grasp common core, it's a way easier....ONCE you grasp it.

Common Core is terrible (like most government designed stuff today). If you have kids in school, opt them out of it. Better if you can take them out of public schools altogether.
http://www.freedomworks.org/content/top-10-reasons-oppose-common-core
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blog...urbing-look-at-common-core-tests-in-new-york/

pat34lee · Sep 20, 2015

seashale76 said:
Exactly. It's simply curriculum standards.

ETA- There is no reason why the entire country shouldn't have the same curriculum standards. A student should be able to move around to all fifty states and be able to know that there is an expectation that they will cover the same things at the same grade level wherever they go.

Who is to decide that standard, because it won't be teachers? Do you trust politicians that much?

seashale76 · Sep 20, 2015

pat34lee said:
Who is to decide that standard, because it won't be teachers? Do you trust politicians that much?

It isn't the politicians that made the standards. You'd do well to go read up on it.

Were teachers involved in the creation of the standards?
Yes. Teachers have been a critical voice in the development of the standards. The Common Core State Standards drafting process relied on teachers and standards experts from across the country. Teachers were involved in the development process in four ways:

They served on the Work Groups and Feedback Groups for the ELA and math standards.

The National Education Association (NEA), American Federation of Teachers (AFT), National Council of Teachers of Mathematics (NCTM), and National Council of Teachers of English (NCTE), among other organizations were instrumental in bringing together teachers to provide specific, constructive feedback on the standards

Teachers were members of teams states convened to provide regular feedback on drafts of the standards.

Teachers provided input on the Common Core State Standards during the two public comment periods.

http://www.corestandards.org/about-the-standards/frequently-asked-questions/

pat34lee · Sep 20, 2015

seashale76 said:
http://www.corestandards.org/about-the-standards/frequently-asked-questions/

Quote from your article
"States across the country collaborated with teachers, researchers, and leading experts to design and develop the Common Core State Standards."

Do you know any of the 'teachers, researchers and leading experts' it mentions? (also 'experts' in what?)

A quote from a different article:
"These standards were never developed by classroom teachers or school administrators. The architect of the Common Core is David Coleman. Coleman has never been a teacher. One of the chief criticisms of the Common Core, by teachers no less, is that they were not involved in the development of the Common Core. She is right that “experts” were involved, but that is a pretty subjective term. I find it fascinating how somebody could be deemed “an expert” on how and what teachers should teach every child across the country."
http://truthinamericaneducation.com...propaganda-who-created-the-standards-exactly/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/wp/2014/01/23/the-coming-common-core-meltdown/

keith99 · Sep 20, 2015

When I was a child I learned Roman Numerals! My parents never made fools of themselves by writing a check using Roman Numerals.

Also there is a reason why checks have a place where you write out the amount using words, so the amount is said using 2 different methods. This fool used the same notation in 2 places were different methods are required.

A total jerk.

keith99 · Sep 20, 2015

Nithavela said:
No, could someone explain what those wriggles mean. What number is written on that cheque?

My bet is it is gibberish using the form of some process taught at some school.

Note that in one place the check has ooooxxx

and elsewhere for the same 'number' has
xxx
oooo

Unusual as the later if put on one line would normally be xxxooo.

Also in one place he has a set of 5 by 2 boxes and elsewhere 4 by 2. In both with something too small to easily read in the boxes.

I can reverse engineer a lot, but I can't do it when someone is simply using the form and not being accurate in the details.

ChristsSoldier115 · Sep 20, 2015

How much did he donate anyhow to prove his point? I don't know common core's math methodology so..

revanneosl · Sep 20, 2015

Alternate headline, Idiot Dad Embarassed He Can't Do Math, Humiliates Self.

CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN · Sep 20, 2015

My guess would be 9 dollars, since it didn't look like he subtracted. Also the ending of a math problem is usually the finale number. Where this guy didn't write the final answer. Now does he expect the bank to get his poor math skills? The school probably thought he was nothing more than an idiot.

Vylo · Sep 20, 2015

I both like and dislike common core. It's good to have a more clear set of standards, but the educational needs of students can vary over regions. I really think the Department of Education should simply provide analysis and recommendations for the states, not force anything down their throats.

The Barbarian · Sep 20, 2015

duplicate. please delete

The Barbarian · Sep 20, 2015

Common core in math just took the best practices from states that had higher student achievement. They don't say how to do things, merely what skills a student should be taught. So each state adopting Common Core math merely give objectives. Local school boards are free to set methods of teaching.

The issue driving this are international comparisons of U.S. students with those of other nations. Although we do better in math than most other nations, every nation that does better than we do, has national educational standards. This being a federal nation, a voluntary system was probably the best way to go.

And, of course, Common core is not a mandate. It's just a better way of teaching, taken from best practices in districts and states that have been successful. No state has to adopt it.

So this angry papa is missing the target. The other states will either raise their own standards to match, (e.g. Minnesota) adopt Common Core, or fall further behind.

Cearbhall · Sep 20, 2015

NightHawkeye said:
Fed-Up Dad Makes a Serious Point by Sending This Common Core Check to His Kid’s School | The Blaze

If they want to actually cash the check, officials at Melridge Elementary in Painesville, Ohio, will likely have to teach the bank teller how to figure out the cash amount using the Common Core way.

Lol I have no idea what that's supposed to be.

com7fy8 · Sep 20, 2015

Maybe he set it up so none of his money could be taken by the school?

He'd better know what he was doing, or else he might unknowingly write what interprets to a big donation.

What I see is maybe someone gets a lot of hugs > ooo > and kisses > xxx

keith99 · Sep 20, 2015

Ok I took the image of the check and then zoomed in. All the little boxes seem to have little zeros in them, but the leftmost bottom one in the set with 4 boxes is so illegible it could be a 2!

I voting for $2,000.

Hank77 · Sep 20, 2015

seashale76 said:
Having never been a math teacher or a parent, I'm not sure what is Common Core and what isn't regarding the way they're teaching students to solve math problems now, however, I gather it is convoluted and controversial.

seashale76 said:
In the subjects I taught, I had no issues with the Common Core whatsoever. It aligned with the standards we were already using fairly well.

So you must have taught English.

pat34lee said:
Common Core is terrible (like most government designed stuff today).

It's even worse than the government. If one researches who was behind CCORE, it's a lobbyist group. I did mega research on how CC came about. The only true experts that were on the final review committee were a retired math professor from MIT and a well respected English professor who had years of experience with school systems. Both of them refused to sign off on CC. The review committee, besides these two, was made up of the same people who designed CC.
What'a farce.

seashale76 said:
It isn't the politicians that made the standards. You'd do well to go read up on it.

Your quote is from the Common Core website. Would you expect them to say anything but good things about it?

The Barbarian · Sep 20, 2015

The only true experts that were on the final review committee were a retired math professor from MIT and a well respected English professor who had years of experience with school systems. Both of them refused to sign off on CC.

You've been misled, it seems:
http://www.corestandards.org/assets/CommonCoreReport_6.10.pdf

Hank77 · Sep 20, 2015

The Barbarian said:
You've been misled, it seems:
http://www.corestandards.org/assets/CommonCoreReport_6.10.pdf

My mistake, I said the professor on the review (validation) committee was from MIT, he was from Stanford.
http://parentsacrossamerica.org/james-milgram-on-the-new-core-curriculum-standards-in-math/
The English expert on the validation committee member was Susan Stotsky.
Unveiling Common Core in El Dorado County Sandra Stotsky, Ed.D Prof R. James Milgram, Ph. D

variant · Sep 20, 2015

Does common core math not spit out regular base ten numbers or is the check a straw-man?

Ohio dad writes check to school using Common Core math

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