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Hey you, what do you think or believe when you look at this topic?

please share with us these thoughts.

I’m talking about people in the modern day.

Does God favor some believers over other believers?

If you believe so, why? How come?

Are there scriptures that can prove otherwise?


Maybe ponder on this verse...

Jonah 4:

11Should I not have compassion on Nineveh, the great city in which there are more than 120,000 persons who do not know the difference between their right and left hand, as well as many animals?”








God is no respecter of persons. That said. You and your relationship with him will make you and him be closer. So in a sense there is respect and closeness he will have. But that is more up to us at that point and our relationship with him.

 
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What do you mean by "favor", in this context? For that matter, what do you mean by "believer"? I mean, even the demons believe, and tremble.
 
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Acts 13:22 "After removing Saul, he made David their king. God testified concerning him: ‘I have found David son of Jesse, a man after my own heart; he will do everything I want him to do.

i think that God delights in righteous people, and hate those who walk in unrighteousness.

Psalms 5:11 "The Lord examines the righteous, but the wicked, those who love violence, he hates with a passion."

Some people would point out that God loves sinners, and to this i would reply, God loves sinners to repent from their sinful ways so they can be saved from their sins, not stay in them because God loves us sinners anyway.

John 3:16-17
"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him."
 
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In some of my deeply unhappy moments years ago I have berated God in prayer with the verse that says he shows "no partiality" aka Favoritism that was lie. And went down the list of troubles I had, and all the things I worked on, putting my heart and soul into that didn't turn out. Besides this there were so many people I've known who had better innate talents and aptitudes, and some pretty easy victories, while I often toiled for much much less....


I don't think God has favorites the way humans do. But then again He does create us in different ways, with different strengths, gifts, and functions. On the surface some people seem to get the short end of the stick, while other seem to get a lot more than what they deserve. But there are lots of things going on behind the scenes, and some situations that might be bad at one time might have some hidden benefits years or decades later.


Besides that I think there is something to the fact that God is closer to some people more than others. Some people are much more spiritual etc. than other people. And God at times does reciprocate that the way people tend to like people who like them back... And this should not be a strange idea or controversial idea, seeing how we humans are created in the "image of God" (a term that is usually interpreted tom be about our creativity and sociability rather than that we actually literally look like God anthropomorphically speaking.)
 
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Thinking on the things you talk about here, and some of the implications and applications into other subjects, the thought comes to me that God in the end if nothing else is just. This life is not about this life.
 
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Panel, I am at work so things are moving quite fast especially being hyped up on caffeine.

You speaking at the last bit about how God is closer to some than others, but wouldn’t that mean they are more closer to him, because of their faith?

You did mention God doesn’t have favorites and that is my own stance.

God sees all as equal. All sin paid for by Jesus Christ. Just because someone believes doesn’t make them better than an unbeliever, though they are saved to the kingdom of God; ie they have the spirit.
 
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In the OT God pretty obviously had a chosen people.

The NT shows God has chosen some for his particular love --not because they are better or deserve it in some way, but because of his use for them, he favors them; they are precious to him above the others.
 
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Thinking on the things you talk about here, and some of the implications and applications into other subjects, the thought comes to me that God in the end if nothing else is just. This life is not about this life.

You are right Mark. He most certainly is just, and May God get the glory for anything that I might try to teach, cause my timer is ticking away day by day, sir. God bless you and your families.
 
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God is both the giver of the faith anyone has, (if it is real faith, not man-made) and the motivator. What God plans for a believer does not depend on the believer.

There are several places where God pretty obviously favors one person or people over others. Note Jesus and "the disciple Jesus loved"; note his love for Israel above all other nations; "Jacob have I loved -- Esau have I hated";
"Yet on your fathers did the Lord set His affection to love them, and He chose their descendants after them, even you above all peoples, as it is this day."

We know according to Scripture that he has an Elect people, those he has chosen from before the foundation of the world, as his particular people, whom he will save, regenerating, changing, who will be with him forever in heaven. These he calls the Bride of Christ, the Church, The Body of Christ, bone of his bone and flesh of his flesh. These are his particular creation. The rest he will not save, not regenerate, and will not be with him.
 
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I agree... that is the church bride.

But just imagine for a moment the bride had already been taken away.

@Pavel Mosko this what I’m saying.

If the bride is done gone. And you are saved by grace through your faith in God (the modern day believers ) is there anyway, that God favors

any of them

above another. (Cause I believe the bride has done been took away.)

I figured this might cause a bit of division but that is not my intentions at all.

thank you for the replies.
 
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You did mention God doesn’t have favorites and that is my own stance.

Favourites He hasn't got in the sense that He doesn't bless one more because that person delights Him more. He gives rain to the just and the unjust and hardships come the way of the righteous and the way of the sinner.

Yet you forget the obvious and that is love itself. When a person loves another person actively then something from that persons love dwells in the person loved. So it is with God. When we love God then He is very close to us from He loves us as well.

So in individual people God's love can be killed, as happens in the hearts of unbelievers, or He can carry a piece of us and we of Him in our loves, love for each other.

So in His love God has favourites, those who are in His love, and He in theirs. That is called relationship. But i don't believe for one moment that God would give me more material goods or money or anything worldly to me because He loves me more than my unbeliever neighbour. His love is much more on a personal basis.

A living relationship with God on high brings us His blessings within though! For i have far more joy, thankfulness, praise, love, kindness and all kind of other good things available to me because His love dwells in me.

A love relationship with God amounts to something far more than unbelievers will ever experience.

Peace.

Psalms 90:17
May the favor of the Lord our God rest on us; establish the work of our hands for us— yes, establish the work of our hands.
 
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I agree Jeshua. Then what about in Romans when it says God has not favorites?

This will be my last post, I’ll get back to working.

“But there will be glory and honor and peace from God for all who do good—for the Jew first and also for the Gentile. For God does not show favoritism.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭2:10-11‬ ‭NLT‬‬


The question is Does God favor some Christians more than others? The answer would be no. He doesn’t. He loves all equally.
 
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Not that I agree in the least that the Bride has already been taken, BUT, that's not the point --or are you saying the Elect have already been taken? Because as far as I can tell, there and none but the Elect who will see the Kingdom of Heaven.
 
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All true believers --not all who go by the name Christian-- no?
 
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Maybe ponder on this verse...

Jonah 4:

11“Should I not have compassion on Nineveh, the great city in which there are more than 120,000 persons who do not know the difference between their right and left hand, as well as many animals?”
 
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Good answers here.

A little new view to this topic - into our eyes it may look as there are God's favorite ones, but from Bible I get that Jesus Christ is God's love towards us. So equally after these bible verses

(King James Version: Joh. 1:12)
12.But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

- we have got the power equally to become "the sons of God".


(King James Version: Ilm. 21:27)
27.And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.

- so the name of everyone who has received Jesus Christ is written in the Lamb's book of life equally.

So - I think the love is equal to every God's child.
 
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He's not supposed to, but I believe he does after reading posts here that speak of all God does for them and all the people that he talks to. Some of us never hear him and that seems like favoritism to me. But I love him and I know he loves me despite.
 
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God chose the Jews over all other people
God chose Israel over all the other nations to be His people
God chose Noah and his family over all the others
God chose Abraham over all others to work through his lineage
God chose Jacob over Esau
God chose Joseph over his brothers
God chose David over his brothers
God chose John the Baptist over all others as the forerunner for Messiah
God chose the 12 disciples over all others

You can read through Romans 9 below to see how that works.

I am telling the truth in Christ, I am not lying; my conscience testifies with me in the Holy Spirit, 2 that I have great sorrow and unceasing grief in my heart. 3 For I could wish that I myself were accursed, separated from Christ for the sake of my countrymen, my kinsmen according to the flesh, 4 who are Israelites, to whom belongs the adoption as sons and daughters, the glory, the covenants, the giving of the Law, the temple service, and the promises; 5 whose are the fathers, and from whom is the Christ according to the flesh, who is over all, God blessed forever. Amen.

6 But it is not as though the word of God has failed. For they are not all Israel who are descended from Israel; 7 nor are they all children because they are Abraham’s descendants, but: “through Isaac your descendants shall be named.” 8 That is, it is not the children of the flesh who are children of God, but the children of the promise are regarded as descendants. 9 For this is the word of promise: “At this time I will come, and Sarah will have a son.” 10 And not only that, but there was also Rebekah, when she had conceived twins by one man, our father Isaac; 11 for though the twins were not yet born and had not done anything good or bad, so that God’s purpose according to His choice would stand, not because of works but because of Him who calls, 12 it was said to her, “The older will serve the younger.” 13 Just as it is written: “Jacob I have loved, but Esau I have hated.”

14 What shall we say then? There is no injustice with God, is there? Far from it! 15 For He says to Moses, “I will have mercy on whomever I have mercy, and I will show compassion to whomever I show compassion.” 16 So then, it does not depend on the person who wants it nor the one who runs, but on God who has mercy. 17 For the Scripture says to Pharaoh, “For this very reason I raised you up, in order to demonstrate My power in you, and that My name might be proclaimed throughout the earth.” 18 So then He has mercy on whom He desires, and He hardens whom He desires.

19 You will say to me then, “Why does He still find fault? For who has resisted His will?” 20 On the contrary, who are you, you foolish person, who answers back to God? The thing molded will not say to the molder, “Why did you make me like this,” will it? 21 Or does the potter not have a right over the clay, to make from the same lump one object for honorable use, and another for common use? 22 What if God, although willing to demonstrate His wrath and to make His power known, endured with great patience objects of wrath prepared for destruction? 23 And He did so to make known the riches of His glory upon objects of mercy, which He prepared beforehand for glory, 24 namely us, whom He also called, not only from among Jews, but also from among Gentiles, 25 as He also says in Hosea:

“I will call those who were not My people, ‘My people,’
And her who was not beloved, ‘beloved.’”
26 “And it shall be that in the place where it was said to them, ‘you are not My people,’
There they shall be called sons of the living God.”

27 Isaiah cries out concerning Israel, “Though the number of the sons of Israel may be like the sand of the sea, only the remnant will be saved; 28 for the Lord will execute His word on the earth, thoroughly and quickly.” 29 And just as Isaiah foretold:

“If the Lord of armies had not left us descendants,
We would have become like Sodom, and would have been like Gomorrah.”

30 What shall we say then? That Gentiles, who did not pursue righteousness, attained righteousness, but the righteousness that is by faith; 31 however, Israel, pursuing a law of righteousness, did not arrive at that law. 32 Why? Because they did not pursue it by faith, but as though they could by works. They stumbled over the stumbling stone, 33 just as it is written:

“Behold, I am laying in Zion a stone of stumbling and a rock of offense,
And the one who believes in Him will not be put to shame.”


We can also include Jesus laid down His life for His sheep and Jesus gave up Himself for His Church. Jn 10, Eph 5:25

1 Peter 2:9-10
But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for God’s own possession, so that you may proclaim the excellencies of Him who has called you out of darkness into His marvelous light; 10 for you once were not a people, but now you are the people of God; you had not received mercy, but now you have received mercy.

hope this helps !!!
 
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God loves all believers equally. But the expression of His love through His plans and purposes differs.

That’s the part which causes confusion. Everything the Lord imparts has a reason. A lesson which adds to our holiness or impact on the world for His glory. It includes blessings (sun) and challenges (rain).

Problems arise when we compare ourselves with others and desire their experiences or blessing. We’re glimpsing the sun and remain oblivious to the hardships. We forget difficulties arrive in many guises. Plenty brings additional temptations, spiritual harassment, and added responsibilities.

We must be mindful of the lessons in the wilderness. Grumbling is a sin. The Lord apportions to us as He wills.

To one he gave five talents, to another two, to another one, to each according to his ability. —Matthew 25:15

Yours in His Service,

~bella
 
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