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NT textual criticism and DNA mutations

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rmwilliamsll

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While discussing HERV's at:
http://www.christianforums.com/showpost.php?p=22793261&postcount=133

i used the example of New Testament textual criticism and the mutations of DNA due to ERV's integration and how this supports the TofE.

I suspect most Christians have at least a rough idea of NT textual criticism, so called lower criticism.

if not go read:
http://www.skypoint.com/~waltzmn/intro.html


ERV's are like scribal insertation errors. taking a few words to a whole paragraph and inserting it into the text you are copying. These errors create families of texts, as you can see in the article, because up until the rise of textual criticism and the compilation of standards like the TR or W&H or now the ABS, families stuck together.

It's a good example, worth looking into. Plus TR and the like are chimeras, they are deliberate unifications of family lines. Which means that up until that point the texts formed nested hierarchies. So you can see another set of analogies with living creatures.

like all analogies it is not perfect, but it ought to help people with the HERV's and with the nested hierarchies.

But the big point is that textual criticism makes these family determinations not just on one or two "insertation" or "mutations" but how groups of them stick together. and how the vertical transmission changes over time (ongoing mutation of the ERV segments of DNA). Now unless you are willing to throw out all the textual criticism as junk that doesn't tell you anything about the transmission of the NT, the lessons are directly applicable to showing common descent as well.

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i'm a bit surprised that no one answered this thread.

Look at little more into exactly how textual criticism puts NT witnesses into families and what is the reasoning.

from: http://www.earlham.edu/~seidti/iam/text_crit.html

from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Textual_criticism#Stemmatics

from: http://www.theopedia.com/New_Testament_Textual_Criticism

there are a number of essays that talk about textual criticism's parallel to clades other than the one quoted above.

there is a really interesting one at:
http://rjohara.net/cv/1996-rhc

the whole article is an excellent must read on the topic.
 
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Well, to respond I like the analogy, however I think it suffers from a few problems:

1. In terms of the NT itself, a lot of Christians (not all, hopefully) who believe in YECism are from the same "intellectual culture" which has a "Quranic monolith" understanding of the Bible. i.e. that the Bible dropped down from Heaven inerrantly and monolithically as a written co-eternal extension of God's mental activity. The very idea of "textual criticism" upon such a work simply does not compute.

2. As the quote pointed out, compilation from multiple sources into a single work by copyists mucks up the cladistic analysis of texts immensely. I don't think biological cladistics has a big problem with this.

But I really liked your original analogy of Chinese whispers.
 
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As the quote pointed out, compilation from multiple sources into a single work by copyists mucks up the cladistic analysis of texts immensely. I don't think biological cladistics has a big problem with this.

what is interesting is that these are equivalent to chimeras in biology. they don't naturally exist, although they do now because of human beings creating them.
 
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