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Made a study on just this a while ago: Verses on Disabilities or Struggles (Gen 3, Romans 8, John 9, Isaiah 41)No Sickness Comes from God
Jesus came to destroy the works of the devil. Most of the work of Christ was healing the sick. Jesus attributes sickness to the works of Lucifer when He says in Luke 13:16, Ought not this woman, being a daughter of Abraham, whom Satan hath bound, lo, these eighteen years, be loosed from this bond on the sabbath day? He didn’t say, “This woman who hath a love-token from the Lord should be grateful for it.” He didn’t stoop down and whisper, “Dear lady, you with arthritis crippling you until you cannot stand upright, it’s the will of the Father for you to be like this. He sent me to let you know it’s His love-token.” No. Jesus set her free; He healed her. That’s love; that’s God’s love. She was made whole.
Date | April 27, 2024 |
Verse | Genesis 3:1-5: "Now the serpent was more crafty than any other beast of the field that the Lord God had made. He said to the woman, ‘Did God actually say, ‘You shall not eat of any tree in the garden’?’ And the woman said to the serpent, “We may eat of the fruit of the trees in the garden, but God said, ‘You shall not eat of the fruit of the tree that is in the midst of the garden, neither shall you touch it, lest you die.’ But the serpent said to the woman, ‘You will not surely die. For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.’" Genesis 3:17-19: "And to Adam he said, ‘Because you have listened to the voice of your wife and have eaten of the tree of which I commanded you,‘You shall not eat of it,’cursed is the ground because of you; in pain you shall eat of it all the days of your life; thorns and thistles it shall bring forth for you; and you shall eat the plants of the field. By the sweat of your face you shall eat bread, till you return to the ground, for out of it you were taken; for you are dust, and to dust you shall return.’" Romans 8:20-23: "For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of him who subjected it, in hope that the creation itself will be set free from its bondage to corruption and obtain the freedom of the glory of the children of God. For we know that the whole creation has been groaning together in the pains of childbirth until now. And not only the creation, but we ourselves, who have the first fruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait eagerly for adoption as sons, the redemption of our bodies." John 9:1-3: "As he passed by, he saw a man blind from birth. And his disciples asked him, ‘Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?’ Jesus answered, ‘It was not that this man sinned, or his parents, but that the works of God might be displayed in him.’" Isaiah 41:10: "Fear not, for I am with you; be not dismayed, for I am your God; I will strengthen you, I will help you, I will uphold you with my righteous right hand." |
Explanation | The first two passages from Genesis describe the fall of humanity, specifically Adam and Eve's disobedience to God's command in the Garden of Eden. The serpent, who represents Satan or temptation, deceives Eve by questioning God's word and promising her that she won't die if she eats the forbidden fruit. Instead, she and Adam experience consequences such as physical toil, pain, and death. These passages highlight the entrance of sin and suffering into the world. The last three passages from Romans, John, and Isaiah speak to God's presence and redemption in the midst of suffering and hardships. In Romans, Paul describes creation as groaning with us as it waits for redemption. John's passage about the blind man illustrates that God can bring good out of difficult circumstances, and Isaiah reassures us that God is always with us and will help us through our struggles. These passages relate to disabilities in several ways: 1) they acknowledge the presence of suffering and hardships in our world, including those related to physical, genetic and developmental differences; 2) they offer hope for redemption and restoration through God's power and love; and 3) they remind us of our need for dependence on God in the midst of life's challenges. The Genesis passages may not directly address disabilities, but they lay the foundation for understanding the brokenness and need for redemption that exists in all aspects of creation. The later passages from Romans, John, and Isaiah offer hope and encouragement for those living with disabilities or facing any form of suffering. These passages emphasize the importance of empathy, compassion, and understanding for all individuals, regardless of their abilities or circumstances. |
I think you misunderstand. Everything is in God's control, whether Satan, sickness, or human choice.No Sickness Comes from God
Jesus came to destroy the works of the devil. Most of the work of Christ was healing the sick. Jesus attributes sickness to the works of Lucifer when He says in Luke 13:16, Ought not this woman, being a daughter of Abraham, whom Satan hath bound, lo, these eighteen years, be loosed from this bond on the sabbath day? He didn’t say, “This woman who hath a love-token from the Lord should be grateful for it.” He didn’t stoop down and whisper, “Dear lady, you with arthritis crippling you until you cannot stand upright, it’s the will of the Father for you to be like this. He sent me to let you know it’s His love-token.” No. Jesus set her free; He healed her. That’s love; that’s God’s love. She was made whole.
John 11 4 " No, it is for God’s glory so that God’s Son may be glorified through it.”I think you misunderstand. Everything is in God's control, whether Satan, sickness, or human choice.
Why did Paul boast in his infirmities? Why did he tell Timothy to drink a little wine for his often infirmities? Why does Romans chapter 8 say that pestilence can't separate us from God's love? Please realize this chapter is teaching us we that we will face great hardship and not have good health necesarily. Indeed we are sheep led to the slaughter.No Sickness Comes from God
Jesus came to destroy the works of the devil. Most of the work of Christ was healing the sick. Jesus attributes sickness to the works of Lucifer when He says in Luke 13:16, Ought not this woman, being a daughter of Abraham, whom Satan hath bound, lo, these eighteen years, be loosed from this bond on the sabbath day? He didn’t say, “This woman who hath a love-token from the Lord should be grateful for it.” He didn’t stoop down and whisper, “Dear lady, you with arthritis crippling you until you cannot stand upright, it’s the will of the Father for you to be like this. He sent me to let you know it’s His love-token.” No. Jesus set her free; He healed her. That’s love; that’s God’s love. She was made whole.
John 11.4 only explains one particular cause for someone's suffering. It is not a complete list of reasons for suffering adversity. But certainly, it is one cause.John 11 4 " No, it is for God’s glory so that God’s Son may be glorified through it.”
It is clear why God allows things to happen. This is the biggest complaint people have with God is why does He allow what He allows.
As he passed by, he saw a man blind from birth. And his disciples asked him, “Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?” Jesus answered, “It was not that this man sinned, or his parents, but that the works of God might be displayed in him.No Sickness Comes from God
Jesus came to destroy the works of the devil. Most of the work of Christ was healing the sick. Jesus attributes sickness to the works of Lucifer when He says in Luke 13:16, Ought not this woman, being a daughter of Abraham, whom Satan hath bound, lo, these eighteen years, be loosed from this bond on the sabbath day? He didn’t say, “This woman who hath a love-token from the Lord should be grateful for it.” He didn’t stoop down and whisper, “Dear lady, you with arthritis crippling you until you cannot stand upright, it’s the will of the Father for you to be like this. He sent me to let you know it’s His love-token.” No. Jesus set her free; He healed her. That’s love; that’s God’s love. She was made whole.
And then He healed him - the premise is quite correct.As he passed by, he saw a man blind from birth. And his disciples asked him, “Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?” Jesus answered, “It was not that this man sinned, or his parents, but that the works of God might be displayed in him.
— John 9:1-3
Your premise is incorrect.
No it’s not. Even in Job, Satan needed God to give him boils.And then He healed him - the premise is quite correct.
And even today , All that are saved by GRACE does Christ bring SICKNESS and DEATH for those that EAT and DRINK in an Unworthy manner not discerning the body of Christ in 1 Cor 11:25- 34 .No it’s not. Even in Job, Satan needed God to give him boils.
Eli’s sons, Phinehas and Hophni, earned their reputation as “sons of Belial” because of their wickedness and disregard for the Lord. They committed immoral acts, including greed and immorality, even within the tabernacle—the house of worship12. Their behavior was reprehensible, and it led to severe consequences for them and their family. Eli, their father, tried to correct them, but they did not listen, and it was ultimately the Lord’s will to put them to death1. Their story serves as a cautionary tale about the consequences of disobedience and disrespect toward God.does Christ bring SICKNESS and DEATH for those that EAT and DRINK in an Unworthy manner
No Sickness Comes from God
Jesus came to destroy the works of the devil. Most of the work of Christ was healing the sick. Jesus attributes sickness to the works of Lucifer when He says in Luke 13:16, Ought not this woman, being a daughter of Abraham, whom Satan hath bound, lo, these eighteen years, be loosed from this bond on the sabbath day? He didn’t say, “This woman who hath a love-token from the Lord should be grateful for it.” He didn’t stoop down and whisper, “Dear lady, you with arthritis crippling you until you cannot stand upright, it’s the will of the Father for you to be like this. He sent me to let you know it’s His love-token.” No. Jesus set her free; He healed her. That’s love; that’s God’s love. She was made whole.
And then He healed him - the premise is quite correct.
John 11 4 " No, it is for God’s glory so that God’s Son may be glorified through it.”
It is clear why God allows things to happen. This is the biggest complaint people have with God is why does He allow what He allows.
The story in Luke is there were 10 healed but only one gave thanks and glory to God. So because of this he was made whole or restored. We believe in restoration miracles. God is able to do far above and beyond what the doctors can do. But to answer your question they were not doing their part to be healed and receive the promises of God. We have a covenant. So if we do out part of the promise we can be sure that God will do His part. God is not a gene in a bottle. WE have to know what He wants to do in our life so we know what to pray for.Doesn't he care about those lepers from Israel?
But to answer your question they were not doing their part to be healed and receive the promises of God.
We have a covenant. So if we do out part of the promise we can be sure that God will do His part. God is not a gene in a bottle. WE have to know what He wants to do in our life so we know what to pray for.
So it is your belief that those OT Jewish lepers are ALL not healed
All 10 lepers were healed. The story of Jesus healing ten men with leprosy is told in the Bible in Luke 17:11-19. The story goes that while traveling to Jerusalem, Jesus and his apostles came across ten lepers in a village on the border of Galilee and Samaria. The lepers, who were excluded from society due to their disease, stood at a distance and called out to Jesus for mercy. Jesus told them to go and show themselves to the priests, and as they went, they were healed. One of the lepers, a Samaritan, returned to Jesus to thank him and praise God. Jesus asked where the other nine lepers were, and expressed disappointment that they had not returned to give thanks. Jesus then told the Samaritan, "Rise and go; your faith has made you well".
Someone has to have faith. It could be a parent, friends even an employer. It does not have to be the person healed. But someone has to intercede for them and have faith for them. That is why people are all the time asking me to pray for them. They do not have enough faith to receive what they need from God so they are looking for someone that does have the faith to believe to receive.
More than that. God wants us to walk in divine health. He is a God of absolute Justice. He does not allow anything to happen to people that they do not deserve or merit in someway. Some people believe our own positive energy can heal us. Sometimes God uses doctors. We see this with the law of Karma and we see this with the Law of attraction. We draw upon the energy of the universe to heal us.
- God always wants to heal and healing is already provided for today.
- But if you are not healed after prayer, its because of the lack of faith, whether self or others?
More than that. God wants us to walk in divine health. He is a God of absolute Justice. He does not allow anything to happen to people that they do not deserve or merit in someway. Some people believe our own positive energy can heal us. Sometimes God uses doctors. We see this with the law of Karma and we see this with the Law of attraction. We draw upon the energy of the universe to heal us.
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