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Just highlighting your false dichotomy
That's rich! It's only YOUR unique claims that there are phenomena that don't leave any evidence, because that's your ultimate cop-out your impenetrable smoke-screen to supposedly hide the workings of God (or more likely the limitations of your inventiveness).
The trouble is that when explaining away such absences of evidence your explanations are so full of holes that 'us guys' feel obliged to pull your imaginings back down to earth. In such cases (like your version of embedded age creation), we present reasoned arguments explaining there's no evidence for such phenomena BECAUSE THEY NEVER OCCURRED.
This view still holds true after many challenges I have posted. Yes, if evolution is wrong, then creation must be true.
Because, there is no third option.
Don't like it? Try to name a process which is neither evolution nor creation.
You have a point about making things up -- and I partly agree with you; but if you'll look around, you'll see that the questions put to us (me, specifically) are of the nature that are really not covered in the Scriptures.Does making up stuff for Jesus really show him honour? Even if your correct on your interpetations of the bible your still making up explanations and calling them truth, you have no truth in this beyond what is in the bible if your correct.
You got that right!Why is religion less valuable than other human wisdoms? It takes a lot of brain power.
Your "this tells us nothing" is a huge mental block, in my opinion.This is the type of thing I'm refering too, we need evidence or some thing that shows that it's correct to assume that there is no evidence because it was hidden beyond just, "Well the bible said it happened and since no evidence it must be hidden." this tells us nothing, and tells us least of all if thats true, or if true what reason or method for not finding evidence is.
You have a point about making things up -- and I partly agree with you; but if you'll look around, you'll see that the questions put to us (me, specifically) are of the nature that are really not covered in the Scriptures.
I suspect this is done on purpose to try and fail -- or at least put a dent in -- basic theology.
Case in point is where the water went after the Flood.
It's not good enough with these guys that we believe God sent it -- we can back that up with Scripture; but they want to know where it went.
My contention is that they try to back us into a corner with our own theology -- and that's where I really shine.
I'm not beneath extreme speculation if I have to.
Trying to badger me into giving a viable explanation as to where the waters went in Noah's day will indeed leave you with plenty to think about when I answer you.
Deny what I say, or laugh at it, or ridicule it, and I just might turn it right around and ask you where the waters went -- then make a play on your unwillingness to answer.
In short, I'm good at introducing these guys to mirrors.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not one to compromise the truths of Scripture, and I don't tell lies -- but I will speculate if I have to.
Your "this tells us nothing" is a huge mental block, in my opinion.
What it tells you -- very loudly -- is that we walk by faith and not by sight.
These Internet scientists here are getting a rich dose of how faith operates, and they don't even see it.
Something about us aggravates them, and they attribute it to our lack of knowledge; but it's not, it's our faith they are encountering, and according to Ephesians 6, it is a shield that even Satan cannot penetrate.
No comment.Speculation is all fine and dandy, but you have a tendecy from some of your posts to treat your claims as facts, I still remember the, "no evidence for the flood, then scientists arn't looking hard, it's there, if they havn't found it they arn't looking hard enough." argument a few weeks ago. Problem is there is a very simple explanation for why all the evidence points to you being wrong, you could just be wrong.
My issue isn't that you come up with explanations, thats good, I have fun with this myself, but before I treat them as fact and such I look for evidence I look for people knowledgable in the subjects that might have something to back up my ideas. Evolution has all this knowledge and information backing it up, you can poke a few holes in some evidence deflate them a bit so they are at least questionable, but your poking holes in a dozen bits of evidence ignoring the thousands more. And many of the holes your trying to poke at were ones patched and reinforced long ago with evidence. I've seen you use many arguments that were destroyed ages ago hence why people keep calling you on PRATT's alot.
If you want to prove your interpetation of the bible to me, and others you need evidence, no ammount of adhoc's and bible quoting will get anywhere with us, scientists or those that accept evolution to be true. Poking afew bullt holes in a reinforced hundred foot well supported wall isn't going to cause it to colapse.
Remember to disprove evolution, you must not only prove why it's wrong, but why to date it's been correct. You may not like evolution you may think it's wrong, but ignoring, ad hoc'ing, straw maning the evidence won't acomplish anything and this is what this topic is about. Not to ridicule you, just the methods to show that you arn't acomplishing anything other then possibly boosting your own beliefs and those that agree with you. Not a single TE or AE is ever going to be convinced on AD hoc's, Strawman, and such alone that knows the first thing about evolution.
Good -- then if the world is your bible, then please explain why this bible has five different explanations as to how we got our moon.I will stick with the evidence and what the world teaches me of god, you can stick to your faith and if your wrong have fun explaining to him why you ignored everything in the world that cried out the truth.
It is false. But it is true.
If you want to do me a favor, than challenge it. I can't wait.
I say: if evolution is false, then creation is true.
Good -- then if the world is your bible, then please explain why this bible has five different explanations as to how we got our moon.
And while we're at it, what's your explanation?
If you can't tell me how we got our moon, please don't think I'm going to listen to you when you tell me how we got our parents.
You don't have to be an astronomer -- all I'm asking you to do is tell me why there are five different theories as to how we got our moon, if your bible is so accurate.well considering I'm not a astronmer, it's a bit hard to tell you exactly.
Then your bible (science) can take a hike.There are however many theories because we don't stick our conclusions before we bother to gather and analyze our evidence.
You don't have to be an astronomer -- all I'm asking you to do is tell me why there are five different theories as to how we got our moon, if your bible is so accurate.
What these theories are have nothing to do with my point.
Then your bible (science) can take a hike.
I take it your never going to go to a hospital then? Have a healthy lifeThen your bible (science) can take a hike.
I take it your never going going to go to a hospital then? Have a healthy life
It is false. But it is true.
If you want to do me a favor, than challenge it. I can't wait.
I say: if evolution is false, then creation is true.
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