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My father passed away a few months ago. My 12 year old son took it hard. He has refused to go to religion classes ever since, stating that he doesn't believe in God any more. (God would never let this happen.) After trying numerous times to explain that God exists and that Grandpa went to visit Him and Grandma in heaven, I brouht him to talk to the Parish Priest. I has hoped this would help, but after I brought him home from the meeting, he told me that it had been just a waste of his and my time. Finally, I got him to confide in me what the real underlying problem is. "If he had been lied to about Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy, and Easter Bunny .. then how could he believe me when I say that God really exists." He says that parents "scam" their kids into acting good by offering then Christmas gifts while playing Santa Claus and now he believes that parents "scam" their kids into acting good by making up God. (He had once hinted last year that he knew Santa didn't exist, so we didn't pursue the topic, we figured he and his friends would just find the truth on their own .. like we did when we were kids ... but after my Dad's death was the first time he came right out to make a statement about lying about Santa and about God.) Has this happened to anyone else and if so, how did you handle the situation about "lying about Santa" while trying to convince him that you aren't lying when it comes to God actually existing? I had at first told him that he would have to attend religion classes uilhe was 18 years old (while living in our home) and then at that time, he would have enough information and life's experiences to make up his own mind about his beliefs ... but I find it difficult to deal with the "lying accusations" that I was tempted to "shock" him into his beliefs by going to the extreme of "taking God away from him" by not taking him to Church with the family or letting him share in any Christian Holidays or celebrations ... including any church functions ......But now I just don't know what to do. I suppose I could just force him to go to religion and hope he makes his own choices (like I had planned to do) but he thinks I lied and I don't like being called a liar (even though all aprents do when it comes to Santa and the rest of them). Any advise or comfort would be greatly appreciated this morning. Thank you for letting me vent and God Bless.
 

Peter

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Thanks. Your son sounds like a real handful. I have one of those. He went through his phase around 11. He is now 13. He attends Divine Liturgy with me sometimes, and works to stay invloved (I'm EO, BTW).

The problem, as I see it, is not really about being lied to. He misses his grandpa. He's mad at God. He's having to face up to the effects of sin. This is a good thing.

My own children have been angry with me too. But I still made them go to church with me. I've never had them say they were sorry I made them go. Shoot. I go to church when I don't want to because deep down I know that that's the one place I should be!

However, I would caution against SENDING him to anything. Go with him. You are the older brother. He needs your guidance more than that of the your priest. The reality of Christ's presence in our lives is made manifest in these times of personal sorrow. Showing how you still trust God in spite of your loss is a very important lesson for him. Even if doesn't know it.

All of my grandparents were dead before I was 12. And my parents were both gone before I was 35. We visit the family grave site and pray. I always weep. The children know the depth of love I have for my parents and grandparents. They also know and see my love for my God. They can see by my own practice the reality of what I believe in.

Perhaps you can replace the time he usualy goes to religion class with spending some 1 on 1 time with you at Shoney's for a soda and piece of pie.

Remember, children at this age see things in black and white. They are very concrete thinkers. Their logic is not as developed as ours. Have patience. Dont try to force anything.


Peace.

Peter
 
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