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If it's so pointless, why do scientific methodists ask for evidence for the creation of the earth?
The earth was created ex nihilo; no evidence was generated to leave behind for study.
It's a truth that has to be taken by faith, and science can take a hike.
That's YOUR job, chief.I figured that'd be your assertion. I stand by for your Evidence of this 'fact'.
In that case, I can safely discard the whole idea.That's YOUR job, chief.
Fair enough.In that case, I can safely discard the whole idea.
A real apple is the premise of my original challenge.Oh---bummer---Excuse me--I misread this-----I thought you were talking about new ways to use apples!!---I missed lunch!
well, of Course not. It can't be explained because your challenge is a foray into 'not' reality, whether it be hallucination, a vivid dream, hypnosis, an elaborate hoax, or some other deception of reality - I think a few of us have answered something to this effect already.Fair enough.
Are you also safely discarding the last five words of my challenge?
And which term puts it into that category you describe: "God" or "ex nihilo."well, of Course not. It can't be explained because your challenge is a foray into 'not' reality, whether it be hallucination, a vivid dream, hypnosis, an elaborate hoax, or some other deception of reality - I think a few of us have answered something to this effect already.
And which term puts it into that category you describe: "God" or "ex nihilo."
Or both?
This answer is wrong as per the first sentence in his challenge.I can't because it didn't happen.
Well, Both. As has been pointed out, I'd have a 'Brand Spankers' Ipad with a full-tilt warranty to boot. All the serial numbers check out as legit - but no evidence whatsoever that God was even there at all! I'm obviously off my carton by a tinnie or two, or Crazy. or Both. Given I have no evidence whatsoever that what happened, actually happened, I have to concede that I might've ingested too many magic mushrooms on this one, my friends are right to laugh at me.And which term puts it into that category you describe: "God" or "ex nihilo."
Or both?
As long as you refer to it as "magic," I doubt you'll ever fully understand.I cant answer for him of course, but they are both just metaphysics and therefore the same as magic when discussing physical reality.
As long as you refer to it as "magic," I doubt you'll ever fully understand.
It's interesting that I'm using scientific terminology, only to see you guys pluto it, then claim it's "just metaphysics" or an "hallucination."
... my friends are right to laugh at me.
Would I be correct then, if I assumed you're still investigating how we got our moon?Bugeyedcreepy said:It's important that my understanding of the Universe matches with reality. If an observation is made that isn't concordant with reality, then I have to investigate the reasons for the discrepancy. If it is verified my beliefs don't match with confirmed observations, then I have to discard that belief.
Easy.
We can't see gravity, yet we know it exists by observing its effects.Bugeyedcreepy said:EDIT: If God can hide every evidence that he exists, or that he has anything to do with reality, he only has himself to blame for giving our rational minds not only gross lack of evidence for his existence, but every evidence to the contrary.
From Wikipedia:You use no science, you dont even use proper theology!
From Wikipedia:
Ex nihilo is a Latin a phrase meaning "out of nothing. It often appears in conjunction with the concept of creation, as in creatio ex nihilo, meaning "creation out of nothing"—chiefly in philosophical or theological contexts, but also occurs in other fields.
Can anyone tell me what this thread is about? is it about magic and making things appear and disappear?
Fair enough.Belive me, I'm very aware of the terms you use. It does in no way change my view of your "arguments".
Its all variants on "how many angels can dance on the head of a pin". I.e. pointless and of no use either philosophicly or in theology.
Fair enough.
You're certainly entitled to your opinion.
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