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Are you suggesting nobody ever went there thinking it was true?
1. If they were all scientists, I highly doubt any one of them went there thinking it was true.
2. If some of them were not scientists, but scientific methodists, they probably started at the Sea of Reeds and looked for an army of chariots.

Why would a REAL blood-bought believer go there to try and substantiate the book of Numbers?

A REAL blood-bought believer wouldn't have to.

He would take it by faith.
 
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Why would a REAL blood-bought believer go there to try and substantiate the book of Numbers?

A REAL blood-bought believer wouldn't have to.

He would take it by faith.

But finding something would make an outstanding witnessing tool...
 
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But finding something would make an outstanding witnessing tool...
You want an 'outstanding witness tool'?

Use the Bible.

Don't you think it interesting, TLK, that some Christians have to go tour the Holy Land to get some kind of spiritual high?

They go there in busses and cars and whatnot and walk around seeing this and that, then come back claiming they felt some kind of "spiritual closeness" with the LORD.

Give me a break.

You want "spiritual closeness with the LORD"?

Go to church on Sunday, where He's right there in the midst of us.
 
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You want an 'outstanding witness tool'?

Use the Bible.

has it worked for you?


Perhaps they choose to do these things, not have to?

Give me a break.

Indeed -- you're far too good for such vain shows...

You want "spiritual closeness with the LORD"?

Go to church on Sunday, where He's right there in the midst of us.

Does it have to be Sunday? Does it have to be church? Does it have to be with you?

Give me a break.
 
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Whoops! Wrong thread, I thought it had something to do with Archeology.
 
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No matter how much rock solid evidence you give them, they will still find a way to ignore the evidence.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/04/090406102600.htm

In recent years, five enclosures were found in the Jordan Valley and excavated, all designed in the shape of a human foot. The sites are believed to date back to the outset of the Iron Age I (the 13th-12th centuries BCE).
"Foot-shaped" structures have been revealed in the Jordan valley and are among the earliest sites that archeologists believe were built by the ancient people of Israel. The structures are thought to be symbolic of the biblical concept of ownership.
 
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No matter how much rock solid evidence you give them, they will still find a way to ignore the evidence.
Ain't that the truth!?

I used to hear how rabbits in the Precambrian would pwn evolution; but if you look it up on Wikipedia, some say otherwise.
 
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I used to hear how rabbits in the Precambrian would pwn evolution; but if you look it up on Wikipedia, some say otherwise.
If Adam spoke English then there had to have been rabbits in the precambrian or at last some sort of mammal.
 
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Source link?
You need a link? You have never heard about rabbits in the Precambrian? Next think you know people are going to be saying they never heard of a crockoduckie.

 
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While some archaeologists consider Ron Wyatt's accomplishments to be nothing but fraud and sensationalism, many have examined the evidence and perceive the truth beyond the personalities and politics of the profession
 
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While some archaeologists consider Ron Wyatt's accomplishments to be nothing but fraud and sensationalism, many have examined the evidence and perceive the truth beyond the personalities and politics of the profession.


Really? I think more than just archeologist. From Wiki: "Ron Wyatt was an adventurer and former nurse anesthetist noted for advocating the Durupınar site as the site of Noah's Ark, along with almost 100 other alleged Bible related discoveries. These have been dismissed by scientists, historians, biblical scholars, other Creationists and by leaders in his own Seventh-day Adventist Church."

A person's credibility just doesn't get much lower than that.

 
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I know that---that's why I posted this
While some archaeologists consider Ron Wyatt's accomplishments to be nothing but fraud and sensationalism, many have examined the evidence and perceive the truth beyond the personalities and politics of the profession
 
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