[MOVED] Did Adam and Eve have fight/flight response?

Ryukil · Aug 3, 2015

My other question would be...the Fall caused animals to become carnivores, so why was it only certain animals that became carnivores?

It's not an unreasonable question since evolution would explain why certain animals are carnivores and why certain animals are herbivores, just like it explains why certain animals are mammals and certain animals are reptiles.

Billy Myers · Aug 3, 2015

Ryukil said:
My other question would be...the Fall caused animals to become carnivores, so why was it only certain animals that became carnivores?

It's not an unreasonable question since evolution would explain why certain animals are carnivores and why certain animals are herbivores, just like it explains why certain animals are mammals and certain animals are reptiles.

Because the only new source of energy coming into the earth is sunlight, and only 1 enzyme on the planet is able to convert it into useable energy (Chlorophyll) only found in plants. So if no animals were eating the plants the amount of useable energy would decay rapidly (according to the 2nd law of thermodynamics) and life would very quickly cease to exist!

Billy Myers · Aug 3, 2015

brinny said:
Did Adam and Eve have fight/flight response?

They had a "sin" response. (I will elaborate if you wish.)

Thank you kindly.

No they did not have one; and neither did Cain and Abel, which is why Abel never tried to run.

Paul of Eugene OR · Aug 3, 2015

joshua 1 9 said:
If ur gonna violate the rules and call me ignorant then don't expect a response. Don't expect me to read whatever you say after that.

The evolution of bacteria has nothing to do with the evolution of predators and carnivrtous species.

Bacteria are often predators on other bacteria.

Paul of Eugene OR · Aug 3, 2015

Billy Myers said:
No they did not have one; and neither did Cain and Abel, which is why Abel never tried to run.

You can't say Abel never tried to run; that detail is simply not mentioned in our only source about that conflict.

Billy Myers · Aug 4, 2015

Paul of Eugene OR said:
You can't say Abel never tried to run; that detail is simply not mentioned in our only source about that conflict.

Fine take that out and they still never needed a fight or flight reflex

Billy Myers · Aug 4, 2015

Paul of Eugene OR said:
You can't say Abel never tried to run; that detail is simply not mentioned in our only source about that conflict.

Genesis CH4 VS8 And Cain talked with Abel his brother; and it came to pass, when they were in the field, that Cain rose up against Abel his brother, and slew him.

No mention of Abel running away! Doesn't say he chased Abel down and slew him.

joshua 1 9 · Aug 4, 2015

Paul of Eugene OR said:
Bacteria are often predators on other bacteria.

What made more money at the box office The Andromeda Strain or Jurassic Park. Bacteria does many things but mostly breaks matter down and converts it to energy. This is not an example of creation devouring and destroying itself.

If you really don't understand then pray and ask God to open your eyes of understanding. He wants us to learn and grow in strength and knowledge. We are His children and He loves us and He wants us to prosper. He does not want people to perish in darkness even though some well.

brinny · Aug 4, 2015

Ryukil said:
Sure, go ahead.

I'm just saying that there would be no need for a biological response to danger since there were no predators trying to kill Adam and Eve in the Garden.

Presumably, since the Garden was perfect, something like a branch falling off of a tree onto Adam's head wouldn't even happen, you know what I mean?

Aaaah, ok, i thought you meant after they sinned, because it was at that time they "hid" from God, and as such there must've been some adrenaline pumpin' hahaaaa

brinny · Aug 4, 2015

Billy Myers said:
No they did not have one; and neither did Cain and Abel, which is why Abel never tried to run.

Most interesting viewpoint. Thank you for sharing it.

Billy Myers · Aug 4, 2015

brinny said:
Aaaah, ok, i thought you meant after they sinned, because it was at that time they "hid" from God, and as such there must've been some adrenaline pumpin' hahaaaa

They tried to hide from God due to embarrasement of their nakedness not out of fear!

brinny · Aug 4, 2015

Billy Myers said:
They tried to hide from God due to embarrasement of their nakedness not out of fear!

Interesting take on it. Thank you kindly for sharing your opinion.

Chicken Little · Aug 4, 2015

fight or flight is not from the evolved- it is un- evolved animalistic response only.
it doesn't even have to have a REAL threat. fear is like ' Stupid' it just happens in the absence of truth .

fear is only the absence of a sound mind. a sound Mind is a mind filled filled with understanding and wisdom .
God didn't have to create stupid, he didn't have to put stupid there .. he didn't have to empty their minds..
it happened when they lost sound minds and then they lost his wisdom and their connections to that wisdom.

Paul of Eugene OR · Aug 4, 2015

Chicken Little said:
fight or flight is not from the evolved- it is un- evolved animalistic response only.
it doesn't even have to have a REAL threat. fear is like ' Stupid' it just happens in the absence of truth .

fear is only the absence of a sound mind. a sound Mind is a mind filled filled with understanding and wisdom .
God didn't have to create stupid, he didn't have to put stupid there .. he didn't have to empty their minds..
it happened when they lost sound minds and then they lost his wisdom and their connections to that wisdom.

When a deer is being chased by wolves the decision to take flight is one of a sound mind.

Chicken Little · Aug 4, 2015

Paul of Eugene OR said:
When a deer is being chased by wolves the decision to take flight is one of a sound mind.

they had never been chased before that day .
and nothing had been chased before that day.
and you can't prove different.

Paul of Eugene OR · Aug 29, 2015

Chicken Little said:
they had never been chased before that day .
and nothing had been chased before that day.
and you can't prove different.

I have merely proved you were wrong when you asserted fear is only the absence of a sound mind.

Since you were wrong about that, it is no surprise to the rest of us you are also wrong about the history of life on earth.

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oi_antz · Aug 30, 2015

Ryukil said:
Presumably, since the Garden was perfect, something like a branch falling off of a tree onto Adam's head wouldn't even happen, you know what I mean?

Why have you made this assumption? It's a pretty vital assumption to your problem. Do you see evidence in the accounts that falling branches would not be a real hazard? What about the potential hazard of drowning in the river?

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