Oops, sorry Morat. Um, if something was bigger than the tiny space...it couldn't fit in the tiny space...I guess I need the context of your question.
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Originally posted by Morat
No comment on my question? (The little thought experiment).
Oops, sorry Morat. Um, if something was bigger than the tiny space...it couldn't fit in the tiny space...I guess I need the context of your question
Originally posted by Morat
That would be the point, Souljah. It's too big to fit into the tiny space. The tiny space cannot be broached, so the particle can't overlap into other spaces.
So what happens?
The particle can't be crushed down, because it's already too big. The tiny space has to swell to accomodate it. This, unsuprisingly, breaks things.
After all, if a bowling ball appeared in a small balloon, the balloon would burst (it'd have to react instantly, and even rubber isn't elastic enough to change size that fast).
This is roughly analogous to how certain pre-Big Bang cosmologies work. (Not all, just some). The "tiny space" would be the Higgs, constrained in a single Plank interval. (It would be surrounded by an infinite number of Higgs in similiar Plank intervals. Each discrete). These Higgs fields would be "empty", operating at a value of 0. (This is what some cosmologists consider the ultimate level of reality. A sort of grainy nothingness, operating on a quantum level. It would be primordial and eternal.). Now, being a quantum level field, it would fluctuate.
Sooner or later (so to speak, there not being time) one of these Higgs would fluctuate to a critical value, one larger than the Plank interval could contain. (Akin to a particle appearing). The "tiny bit of space" would be forced to inflate. This would break symmetry, which would release a great deal of heat. And then, as the universe expanded, it would begin to supercool (X amount of heat from symmetry breaking, distributed over a larger and larger volume). Matter would appear, as energy densities dropped. (Much like sugar dropping out of a supersaturated solution).
This is, I add, a laymen level analogy for one speculative pre-Big Bang cosmology. It is only slightly predictive (it predicts the universe's energy level would be flat) and remains fairly untestable (except for the existance and value of the Higgs) until a GUT is derived.
But it's based on fairly well understood physics, and a few bits that have yet to be verified (mainly Higgs and quantum gravity stuff). And, assuming a good enough GUT, ultimately would be testable and predictive.
A sort of grainy nothingness, operating on a quantum level. It would be primordial and eternal.
Why eternal?
So "primordial" and "eternal" seems to fit. It's always been there, and always will. Theoretically
Originally posted by Morat
I'm obviously not familiar with the math, but from what I understand, if the cosmology is correct, the Higgs would have to be primordial (and thus eternal).
If it's an incorrect basis for the cosmology, then it'll fall apart. If you're really curious, I'll dig up Peter's email address and you can ask him yourself. He's involved (professionally) in that sort of thing, and can answer your questions in far greater detail then I can. Failing that, I can recommend a few books.
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