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Unless I miss my guess the firmament is space. However since the prince of the power of the air resides there, one assumes (if he is cast down to earth later), then space is not all like near earth space.If you actually think that...
*If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all*
Do you still believe that we're surrounded by a firmament?
Try to be serious. The cosmic ladder is what is used for distance. Please tell us you knew that.....?No, you are just spewing garbage again. Everyone knows that. This is a science forum, if you can't discuss the science, then don't make childish comments.
You miss the point. You don't actually know the process for generation beyond earth, do you?! You assume that it works the same. Got more? Try to leave the 'I am so highly educated , you aren't' attitude behind. It permeates your posts.No, you are confusing source with process. That is understandable for a layman. Gamma rays can come from different sources, however the process of their generation is the same in all cases; an unstable nuclei loses energy decaying into a lower energy nuclei.
Try reading beyond wiki.
Try to be serious. The cosmic ladder is what is used for distance. Please tell us you knew that.....?
You make no sense whatsoever. What does this have to to with the size of the stars?Unless I miss my guess the firmament is space. However since the prince of the power of the air resides there, one assumes (if he is cast down to earth later), then space is not all like near earth space.
On the other side of space, where is where God's heaven is, I assume, the place where departed loved ones also are if they are believers. Beyond space also is where I assume that the windows of heaven open to! From these wormhole thingies that can be opened as needed, things like a planet full of water can be poured down.
The other primary "interpretation" for that redshift phenomenon are called "tired light" theories. The "best" one I've seen thus far is this one:
Try to be serious. The cosmic ladder is what is used for distance. Please tell us you knew that.....?
It is the same everywhere because we see the same physical properties in all places doing the same thing. To assert that it is not is ignoring everything known about the physical universe, which is an absurdly childish point of view.You miss the point. You don't actually know the process for generation beyond earth, do you?! You assume that it works the same.
I've not mentioned your education nor do I know or care what it is. What I have said is that from your comments you could not possibly have any kind of background in anything having to do with spectroscopy or radiometric dating. So yeah! When you ridicule my education, which you have done in other threads, and call the scientific community a bunch of liars, yeah, you bet, I'm going to take offense and let you know about it. Why, because I have been a part of that community and an educator as well.Got more? Try to leave the 'I am so highly educated , you aren't' attitude behind. It permeates your posts.
I just flew in all the way from Betelgeuse and boy are my ... protons tired!
Easy. Unless we know distances, and that requires our 3D space existing as we know it, no sizes can be known.You make no sense whatsoever. What does this have to to with the size of the stars?
Easy. Unless we know distances, and that requires our 3D space existing as we know it, no sizes can be known.
Really?Unfortunately for dad the space does exist as we know it and the distances are known pretty accurately.
Really?
How far is it to the nearest star, then?
Wow. OK.Quite honestly, I have never run across the term cosmic ladder. Checking the wiki article out, I see it is really only a description of what I have already stated; there are a number of methods used in determining stellar distances. They all can be used independently or as a reference point from one method to another.
Well, maybe, maybe not. That remains to be determined. So far all you have is gamma rays popping up on the scene hundreds of days after the fact that match cobalt, right? In a place that we can't know how far. A place where a star that you say could not do something, apparently did it anyhow! Then we have rings you think were already there for tens of thousands of years...gee we just never saw em. Then you have a predicted neutron star that is missing in action! Not there. The whole model is fatally flawed.It is the same everywhere because we see the same physical properties in all places doing the same thing. To assert that it is not is ignoring everything known about the physical universe, which is an absurdly childish point of view.
Very well, then so be it.I've not mentioned your education nor do I know or care what it is. What I have said is that from your comments you could not possibly have any kind of background in anything having to do with spectroscopy or radiometric dating. So yeah! When you ridicule my education, which you have done in other threads, and call the scientific community a bunch of liars, yeah, you bet, I'm going to take offense and let you know about it. Why, because I have been a part of that community and an educator as well.
You might be surprised that people will actually bend over backwards to explain things to you. You don't have to agree with what people say, just be open and responsive in a courteous fair manner.
Proof?Unfortunately for dad the space does exist as we know it and the distances are known pretty accurately.
Already given to you probably several hundred times on various websites over the last decade or so.Proof?
It varies due to our elliptical orbit, but on average about 93 million miles.
Then you have none. I think lurkers suspected as much. Your stargazing tales are no longer believed by all. I, for example utterly reject them.Already given to you probably several hundred times on various websites over the last decade or so.
Your very tired dodge is akin to an appeal for invisible fairies or some such fantasy.
-- That was supposed to be a trick question, so I could make a good point.
I was hoping someone would say 4.4 light years.
You know I do but I am too lazy to type out things I know have been mentioned to you many times before - only to have the same delusional dodge you pull trotted out for the umpteenth time.Then you have none. I think lurkers suspected as much. Your stargazing tales are no longer believed by all. I, for example utterly reject them.
I'm sorry -- my bad.Well assume someone did answer as you wished. What is the good point you wanted to make?
I'm sorry -- my bad.
I was hoping someone would ask for clarification: the sun or Alpha Centauri, to which I was going to go on a rant about science needing clarification of this-and-that, and can't answer simple questions with simple answers.
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