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The repeated ignorance of citing a Wikipedia article on magnetic reconnection in plasma to refute a textbook section on magnetic reconnection in vacuum...snipped insane emphasis on MR in plasma when we are taking about MR in vacuum...
What has a fact less rant have to with the easily understood science to anyone who has studied electromagnetism or English about MR in vacuum, Michael?..rand snipped...
Repeat of the delusion that Somov's MR in vacuum example contains plasma.
That's your own delusion apparently. You can't even keep your own strawmen straight, because you can't accept that wires, unlike *plasma* wouldn't move, therefore there wouldn't be any "reconnection" going on.Repeat of the delusion that "magnetic attraction" means "magnetic reconnection".
Any ordinary plasma ball with demonstrate the "shape" of the current stream. It's a twister like filament in (drum roll) *plasma*.A new delusion - that a current in plasma forms
Birkeland current
A Bennett Pinch is one of many kinds of plasma or solid or liquid pinches.
http://www.christianforums.com/t7810720-38/#post66607488Nothing in that rant is the answer to the question:
5 November 2014 Michael: Where does magnetic reconnection happen in Somov's example?
Somov's example included both A) plasma in the form of "current" in the so called "vacuum", and B) plasma movement in the form of current displacement! WIKI's definition is consistent with Priest's distinction between a *toy* process involving no plasma, and the "real" process that *requires* plasma! Your own *published* references, as well as WIKI all refute your own claims:I've answered that question a bunch of times for you. You simply ignore what I say and repeat the same question. The magnetic attraction takes place *all around* the current streams, not in tiny little "lines" as you seem to imagine in your *toy* understanding of physics. The attraction occurs within and between *entire fields* which are *created by*, and connected to the moving plasma. The "reconnection" (transfer of stored energy) occurs *at the particles* as they *move* as a result of that *attraction*.
It's the *transfer* of energy from field to particle movement that defines the difference between your *toy/pretend* understanding of plasma physics and the real deal RC. Priest explained it clearly and you ignored him, so I'm sure you'll ignore me too *yet again*.
It's the *movement/displacement* of the current that is called "magnetic reconnection", not just the magnetic field topology changes that result from that movement.
Magnetic reconnection is a physical process in highly conducting plasmas in which the magnetic topology is rearranged and magnetic energy is converted to kinetic energy, thermal energy, and particle acceleration.
It happens in plasma and results in *plasma displacement*! You're ignoring my answer, WIKI's answer, Priest's answer and Somov's *inclusion* of current. Somov's vacuum isn't A) devoid of moving charged particles, or B) devoid of charged particle acceleration like Clinger's *toy*!unless I interpret it as total ignorance about magnetic reconnection and where it happens, Michael.
Magnetic reconnection is a physical process in highly conducting plasmas in which the magnetic topology is rearranged and magnetic energy is converted to kinetic energy, thermal energy, and particle acceleration.
*AKA* total ignorance about plasma and that it is an ionized gas that expands to fill a vacuum unless constrained somehow, Michael...usual rant snipped...
And you quote a "magnetic attraction"/"current streams" rant that does not state where the magnetic reconnection happens in Somov's exampleNothing in that rant is the answer to the question:
5 November 2014 Michael: Where does magnetic reconnection happen in Somov's example?
My entire argument is based on science, MichaelYour entire argument ...snipped ignorance...
No putting up unless you count rants about plasma in an example of MR in vacuum and definitely no shutting up!And he did show that "The magnetic reconnection described in Dungey's paper can be reproduced without plasma." in a simple derivation of magnetic reconnection, part 3.
You reply with a rant about kludging and incoherent gibberish. Either put up or shut up:
More science:My entire argument is based on science, Michael
- Citation of a scientific textbook.
- Citations of scientific papers.
- A easily understood tutorial on MR without any plasma.
*AKA* total ignorance about plasma...[\quote]
Your total ignorance of plasma is directly related to the fact that you refues to read a textbook on MHD theory. When did you intend to rectify your self imposed ignorance?
Most of your rant isn't even coherent, so I'll simply ignore it.
And you quote a "magnetic attraction"/"current streams" rant that does not state where the magnetic reconnection happens in Somov's example
You simply cannot handle my answer so you make me repeat myself.
It *happens* where the *current/moving plasma* takes place. That is the physical location where a *conversion of field energy* results in *plasma acceleration*. I predict you'll ignore my *very clear* answer yet again.
Somov's example has no 'wires'. You invented them in your head. His example wouldn't even work with wires because the magnetic attraction between *solid* wires doesn't result in the movement of the wire. You are grasping at straws because you refuse to visit a library and pick up a book on MHD theory. When did you intend to do that RC? It's been nearly 3 years and counting at this point.....
Nope. Priest clearly differentiated between a "toy" process from the 'real' process called "magnetic reconnection'. You keep pathetically trying to equate the "toy" to the real thing.My entire argument is based on science, Michael
Bzzzt. Somov's textbook *included* A) plasma, and B) plasma displacement. Your textbook citation disproved your claims!
- Citation of a scientific textbook.
Double Bzzt! Priest even specifically explained the difference between what he called a 'toy' and what he called the 'real' process, and the difference was *plasma*! Double epic fail!Citations of scientific papers.
It's an *unplublished* pile of horse manure that describes nothing more than magnetic flux in a vacuum. The really *sad* part is that even the magnetic flux that occurs *actually* occurs everywhere *except* his stupid *NULL*! The NULL has a *zero* magnetic field, so it's incapable of inducing currents in plasmas anyway! Oy Vey! I might as well be talking QM with my cat.
- A easily understood tutorial on MR without any plasma.
Apparently "education" just isnt your "thing". You rather fancy yourself as an "expert" on plasma physics based on a few things you heard on a some *random* website in cyberpsace. Wow! Simply amazing. You've cited your ignorant self endlessly, and some *random* unpublished website, but every actualy *published* reference that you've sited actually *falsifies* your claims. Even Priest clearly and methodically described the difference between your *toy* understanding of physics and the 'real' process in *plasma*. You're simply stuck on your own personal denial-go-round and some references to some unpublished random website in cyberspace. Pathetic.I am smart enough to read an article on MR in plasma and know that it is not an article on MR in vacuum
I am smart enough to read.....
Oh dear, Michael, your ignorance just keeps on going...snipped rant...It *happens* where the *current/moving plasma* takes place...
Another hint: What is outside of the currents or even your imaginary "moving plasma", Michael?Maybe the question
5 November 2014 Michael: Where does magnetic reconnection happen in Somov's example?
is too hard for you, Michael!
So I will give you a hint: Magnetic reconnection involves magnetic field lines breaking. Somov states where this happens. Somov labels where this happens in his diagram.
Oh dear, Michael, your ignorance just keeps on going!
There is no "moving plasma" in Somov's example.
A "moving plasma" is a flow of ions and electrons which is overall neutral - not a current which is a net flow of charge.
There is no magnetic reconnection at the place that the currents are.
Somov's example is two parallel equal currents in vacuum. The magnetic field is caused by the currents and is thus outside of the currents.
Another hint: What is outside of the currents or even your imaginary "moving plasma", Michael?
Michael (30 October 2013): If we have electrical wires producing the current in the vacuum of Somov's example then would you claim that magnetic reconnection happens in the electrical wires? without any display of ignorance about the wires not producing the same magnetic fields?
There is no plasma in Somov's example but you seem to think you have the power to introduce plasma which has no magnetic fields around it , MichaelThere are no 'wires' in Somov's example,...
Magnetic (not current or plasmas or wire or solid ) reconnection . Get it, Michael?Solids would not move, therefore solids would not 'reconnect".
Michael (30 October 2013): If we have electrical wires producing the current in the vacuum of Somov's example then would you claim that magnetic reconnection happens in the electrical wires? without any display of ignorance about the wires not producing the same magnetic fields?
An obvious hint in..snipped insults, ignorance and rant...
and the previous hint: "Magnetic reconnection involves magnetic field lines breaking. Somov states where this happens. Somov labels where this happens in his diagram."There is no "moving plasma" in Somov's example. A "moving plasma" is a flow of ions and electrons which is overall neutral - not a current which is a net flow of charge.
There is no magnetic reconnection at the place that the currents are. Somov's example is two parallel equal currents in vacuum. The magnetic field is caused by the currents and is thus outside of the currents.
Another hint: What is outside of the currents or even your imaginary "moving plasma", Michael?
There is no plasma in Somov's example
but you seem to think you have the power to introduce plasma which has no magnetic fields around it , Michael!
And wires will work.
They produce the same magnetic field as a current. They can be moved as in the example. Get it, Michael?
Magnetic (not current or plasmas or wire or solid ) reconnection . Get it, Michael?
An obvious hint in
and the previous hint: "Magnetic reconnection involves magnetic field lines breaking.
Yes he does. He shows you that the *currents move* during the 'reconnection' process. Their *movement* is what makes it "reconnection". You have no "movement" of charged particles in Clinger's pathetic empty vacuum, and no *transfer* of energy taking place! It's just simple magnetic flux in a vacuum! You can't even tell the difference between solid state physics and plasma physics, and you don't even understand *solid state* physics, or you wouldn't be referring to ordinary magnetic flux in a vacuum as 'magnetic reconnection".Somov states where this happens. Somov labels where this happens in his diagram."
I know exactly what he's describing, namely a transfer of magnetic field energy into *particle acceleration*, just like the WIKI definition. You're clueless about MHD theory by choice.And you still have no idea what Somov is describing after several years, Michael.
X is meaningless. Unlike Clinger's pathetic *empty* vacuum, where there is no transfer of energy taking place, Somov's example is A) inclusive of plasma, and B) inclusive of plasma particle movement.So I will give you the answer: X marks the spot!
Yep. He included plasma whereas Clinger did not.This is simple:
- Somov's example is two parallel equal currents in vacuum.
Duh! That's why they are able to "attract" the two currents, and *move* them!The magnetic fields are caused by the currents and are thus outside of the currents.
Magnetic field lines are a continuum of lines
It's idiotic of you to be talking about where X marks the spot and not be talking about the X in the middle of the current stream. That particle *movement* is what makes it "reconnection", not simply magnetic field changes.- there are an infinite number of them. No one would be idiotic enough to draw every magnetic field line in a diagram. Somov is not an idiot - he draws a few examples.
You're erroneously trying to dumb the whole thing down to magnetic field changes alone!Magnetic reconnection is a physical process in highly conducting plasmas in which the magnetic topology is rearranged and magnetic energy is converted to kinetic energy, thermal energy, and particle acceleration.
Bzzt! A new bit of ignorance from you Michael!....snipped usual delusion about plasma in Somov's example...
...snipped usual insults...
..snipped usual delusion about Dungey's "model"
Bzzt! They would *not* work because the "attraction" from the magnetic fields would *not* move the "wires".
Which only leaves:...snipped more plasma fantasies and insults...
Michael (30 October 2013): If we have electrical wires producing the current in the vacuum of Somov's example then would you claim that magnetic reconnection happens in the electrical wires? without any display of ignorance about the wires not producing the same magnetic fields?
But you cannot understand English, Michael - There's your error in a nutshellBut ...
Yes Somov states where this happens - in vacuumYes he does.
..snipped irrelevant rant...
You really are determined to show how ignorant you are about Somov's example of magnetic reconnection in vacuum, Michael.X is meaningless.
Chapter 4. Motion of a Particle in a Field
4.4.2 Reconnection in a Vacuum.
X-type points consist a topological peculiarity of a magnetic field. They are places where where redistribution of magnetic fluxes occurs, which changes the connectivity of field lines. Let us illustrate such a process by the simplest example of 2 parallel electric currents of equal magnitude I in vacuum as shown in Figure 4.17. The magnetic field of these currents forms three different fluxes in the plane (x,y). Two of them belong to the upper and the lower currents, respectively, and are situated inside the separatrix field line A, which forms the figure of the eight-like curve with zeroth X-point. The third flux belongs to both currents and is situated outside of the separatrix.
If the currents are displaced in the direction of each other, then the following magnetic flux redistribution will take place. The currents proper fluxes will diminish by the quantity dA, while their common flux will increase by the same quantity. So the field line A2 will be the separatrix of the final state.
This process is realized as follows: Two field lines approach the X-point, merge there, forming a separatrix, and then they reconnect forming a field line which encloses both currents. Such a process us termed reconnection of field lines or magnetic reconenction. A2 is that last reconnect field line.
Magnetic reconnection is of fundamental importance for the nature of many non-stationary phenomena in cosmic plasma. We shall discuss the physics of this process more fully in chapters 16 to 22. Suffice it to say that reconnection is inevitable associated with electric field generation. The field is the inductive one, since
[equation 4.65]
where A is the vector potential of magnetic field,
[equation 4.66]
In the above example, the electric field is directed along the z axis. It is clear if that if dt is the characteristic time of the reconnection process shown in Figure 4.17 then according to (4.65)
[equation 4.67]
the last equality will be justified n Section 9.2
Reconnection in vacuum is a real physical process: magnetic field lines move to the X-type neutral point and reconnect in it as well as
| the electric field is induced and can accelerate a charge particle or
| particles in the vicinity of the neutral point.
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