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Goatboy said:
Ive increased my chance of developing bladder cancer from 1 in 4167, to 1 in 3260.
That's exactly the point I was making.morningstar2651 said:We've tried making alcohol illegal before. It was called "the prohibition" and it was quite possibly the single greatest thing America did to support organized crime.
This thread isn't about absolute freedom at all. It's about the opinions on the legality of *one* substance. You want to talk about absolute freedoms, start another thread.Harlan Norris said:If one is for absolute freedom, that one doesn't realise that there is no freedom without the law.Just chaos. Every man for himself.Not the kind of world I want to live in.You won't like it either.
I'm confused. You're saying pot use is increasing while it is illegal?Harlan Norris said:You smoke so damn much because your an addict.The law has been in effect since the 30s. It's not like it's anything new.In the 60s pot became a cultural phenomenon.Before then it was a non issue. No one I knew even talked about it.The number of dope smokers has steadily increased since then. Now people are saying to deprive one of pot is like depriving one of air. Just isn't true.
Peacebestill said:At least you'll never get glaucoma.
linkMedical uses of marijuana include:
1. Glaucoma--
The leading cause of blindness in the U.S. is glaucoma. It is a disease characterized by increased intraocular pressure. This increased pressure damages the optic nerve and eventually leads to progressive vision loss. When smoked, given intravenously, or taken orally, cannabis, THC, and other cannabinoid derivatives have been found to reduce the vision-threatening intraocular pressure of glaucoma. However, undesirable physical and psychological side effects have been demonstrated, especially among older patients. Recently, synthetic-THC eye drops have undergone testing with the hope that unwanted side effects are reduced. Despite its beneficial effects for some patients, marijuana neither prevents glaucoma nor improves vision. In addition, there are other medications that are medical standards for the treatment of glaucoma that have few, if any side effects.
JustOneWay said:marijuana neither prevents glaucoma nor improves vision
WalksWithChrist said:I'm confused. You're saying pot use is increasing while it is illegal?
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Then it would appear the War on Drugs has been lost.susanann said:Pot use HAS increased in use since it was made illegal.
Pot use has increased greatly after 1939, and it now is being used more than at any time prior to 1939 when it was legal.
Illegality has increased its use.
WalksWithChrist said:Then it would appear the War on Drugs has been lost.
Harlan Norris said:The arguement that alchohol is worse than pot has it's merits.legal pot will not replace alchohol. You are the exception I'm afraid. However alchohol and pot together are worse than either of them separately.Adding pot to the mix does not lessen the problems of alchohol. It makes them worse.
Maynard Keenan said:The point is that it is illogical to keep pot illegal while alcohol is legal.
No, it's not.Harlan Norris said:Your position is encouragement.
No, I'm not.You are for pot use.
No. it's not.Pot is an addictive drug.
No, they won't.People that use will chose it over their job, the safety of their children,their marriage,their relationship with their parents.
A strawman is never a good thing.How can this be a good thing?
In this case, as most, the strawman is completely harmless.How can this be harmless?
Irrelevant.A man I know of who was diagnosed with bladder cancer,showed me a pamphlet the doc gave him.It stated that 88% of those with that particular type of cancer,were pot users.
Neither is walking down the street.Clearly it isn't harmless.
So you support a nanny state?The law is for our protection and should remain.
Your claims are overstated. Marijuana is not debilitating. Marijuana is widely used, so it's legality isn't an issue in this regard. How many accidents occur because of alcohol compared to pot? There you will find your answer.Marek said:I haven't really been following this thread, so I don't know if this has been said or not, but what about the fact that marijuana is a mind-altering drug? Now I know that alcohol is also, but with one hit of marijuana, one can lose a significant amount of capacity to move or think (believe me, I know). In terms of alcohol, one would either have to take many drinks or drink something very strong. In the case of a very strong alcoholic drink, one could tell that it is strong and take the necessary precautions to not get too drunk. But if someone takes a hit of marijuana, not knowing its strength, they could be severly affected. I believe this is a major safety concern with the legalization of marijuana.
From my experiences, it is. Maybe you haven't tried the good stuff?nvxplorer said:Your claims are overstated. Marijuana is not debilitating.
Though I'm sure there are no good statistics on this, probably not too many. This might have something to do with there being a lot less pot smokers than alcohol drinkers though.How many accidents occur because of alcohol compared to pot?
Sure I have. Maybe I have better control over my mental faculties than most.Marek said:From my experiences, it is. Maybe you haven't tried the good stuff?
No, it would be painfully obvious if marijuana users were causing havoc in society. It would be plastered all over our local news reports.Though I'm sure there are no good statistics on this, probably not too many. This might have something to do with there being a lot less pot smokers than alcohol drinkers though.
Switzerland has legalized heroin with positive results. Addiction has not increased significantly, but related crimes such as theft have decreased drastically. Heroin users who previously spent their time stealing and getting high are now working (and getting high).I'm just curious; do you believe that drugs like cocaine, ecstacy, and heroin should be legal? Because if you do, then my concerns don't really apply to your views.
nvxplorer said:Switzerland has legalized heroin with positive results. Addiction has not increased significantly, but related crimes such as theft have decreased drastically. Heroin users who previously spent their time stealing and getting high are now working (and getting high).
nvxplorer said:I don't know anything about ecstacy.
Mocca said:Wow, awesome. Would you like to provide a source?
Harlan Norris said:You smoke so damn much because your an addict.
The law has been in effect since the 30s. It's not like it's anything new.In the 60s pot became a cultural phenomenon.Before then it was a non issue. No one I knew even talked about it.The number of dope smokers has steadily increased since then.
Now people are saying to deprive one of pot is like depriving one of air. Just isn't true.
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