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Am I right in thinking that the O/T is in fact the Jewish Torah?Hi stamp,
Like I finished off in that response of mine. I operate on a completely different world view than others.
Why do I believe that the Scriptures are of God and not men? Because of what they tell me and because of 'how' they came to be. There is no other writing in all of the world that covers the span of time that it took for the Scriptures to be completed by so many different authors and yet, the focus of all that writing be about the same thing. From Moses in the desert until John wrote the Revelation, we're talking about roughly 1500 years. Throughout that 1500 years there were many and varied writers who wrote down what they claim to be God speaking to them and every one of their writings has a cohesiveness and sameness in how and what they write. That would be similar to someone taking one of JK Rowling's Harry Potter books and in 100 years someone writing another Harry Potter book and then a couple of hundred years after that someone writing another and another and another and so forth over the next 1500 years. All writing about the same subject, Harry Potter.
Then we have the prophecies of the Scriptures. Daniel wrote of a prophecy that foretold an event happening in the future. He wrote that the main event was that near the end of the timeline that he had delineated in his prophecy, the Messiah would be here. He speaks about there being 70 weeks in all, but he divides the 70 weeks into 3 steps. The end of the second step (69 weeks) he tells us that Messiah would be here. But, what's particularly amazing about Daniel's prophecy is that he says the clock would start ticking when there was a decree to restore and rebuild Jerusalem established.
Now, let me clarify the scene here a bit. At the time that Daniel was given this prophecy that he wrote of, he was in captivity in Babylon. There really wasn't anything going on at the time that would even portend that Jerusalem would ever be rebuilt. The decree spoken of in the prophecy didn't come along for almost another 100 years. How did Daniel know that there would ever even be such a decree? How would he have known that from such a decree, even if he were to just guess that one day one would be issued, that we would be able to measure the time until the Messiah came from it's issuance?
God bless you,
In Christ, ted
all the evidence we have supports the theory that plants photosynthesise.. it's not a guess by any means. However, it isn't "proven". Theoretically, someone could discover new evidence that disproves photosynthesis tomorrow. However, and this is key, in light of all the evidence FOR photosynthesis we have, it's very, very UNLIKELY.Hi armoured,
You responded:
So, you still don't know for sure that a plant uses sunlight to photosynthesize sugars to provide nutrients to make the plant grown. No one has really ever shown, on a cellular level, this process of plants converting the energy of sunlight to food. It's just the scientific 'best guess' that we can make right now.
God bless you,
In Christ, ted
Nope. Not gonna happen until Jesus comes back.Same with evolution. Could be disproved tomorrow.
Interesting you trust science to get photosynthesis right but not evolution.Hi armoured,
You responded:
So, you still don't know for sure that a plant uses sunlight to photosynthesize sugars to provide nutrients to make the plant grown. No one has really ever shown, on a cellular level, this process of plants converting the energy of sunlight to food. It's just the scientific 'best guess' that we can make right now.
God bless you,
In Christ, ted
Psalm 119:1 Blessed are the undefiled in the way, who walk in the law of the LORD.
Hi allandavid,
I can see your point. However, for the believer, there is a different understanding of 'who' the author of the Scriptures is. Yes, men penned the words to parchment and scroll, but the thoughts and ideas that were penned came through the leading of the Holy Spirit. Buit, that's only going to be believed by those who agree that when Jesus said 'Thy word is truth', that he was speaking of the ancient writings handed down to that point in time when he made that statement. It's only going to be believed by those who believe that when Paul wrote that men wrote as they were led by the Holy Spirit, that Paul was even then being led by that same Holy Spirit.
For the world, the writings of the Scriptures, or what most refer today as the 'bible', are merely the writings of men. Not really any different than the Greek and Roman mythologies of God. Not particularly different than the Quaran or the Vedras or any other 'religious' writings. The understanding of the Scriptures as the words given to men through the Holy Spirit of God, comes only by faith.
God bless you,
In Christ, ted
Psalm 119:2 Blessed are they that keep his testimonies, and that seek him with the whole heart.More man-writing...
Some "best guesses" are better than others, and that one rests on a firm empirical foundation. Why? Have you found something in Scripture that shows photosynthesis to be a lie of the satanic conspiracy of science to deny the Bible?
And that's an opinion devised by...?
Psalm 119:2 Blessed are they that keep his testimonies, and that seek him with the whole heart.
Isn't the book of Daniel pseudonymous?
Hi allandavid,
Study of the Scriptures and the seeking of the Holy Spirit for wisdom. The unbeliever can't understand the first and doesn't have access to the second.
God bless you,
In Christ, ted
Glad you got the point so soon.I guess you could quote the entire human-written document, if you were so motivated...
You mean like the Ten Commandments that people like to have removed from public view?The moment you can point me towards a document actually written by a god, as opposed to one written by men claiming to speak for one, I'll be all eyes and ears...
Am I right in thinking that the O/T is in fact the Jewish Torah?
According to the opinion of a mere human...
The moment you can point me towards a document actually written by a god, as opposed to one written by men claiming to speak for one, I'll be all eyes and ears...
I see you edited out the rest of the statement. You qualify as the mental and emotional equal to a YEC supporter.Silly tactics, asking for someone to support their claim.
Let me ask you this: Does belief in your convictions qualify as a justification of your assertions?
Interesting you trust science to get photosynthesis right but not evolution.
You mean like the Ten Commandments that people like to have removed from public view?
Deuteronomy 9:10a And the LORD delivered unto me two tables of stone written with the finger of God;
I see you edited out the rest of the statement. You qualify as the mental and emotional equal to a YEC supporter.
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