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So, you asked what evidence was used by both evolutionists and creationists.
Does this pass the requirements?
So, you asked what evidence was used by both evolutionists and creationists.
Does this pass the requirements?
Nice strawman, however, if they find it in 2000 years someone would catch on that there are credits depicting the character and the actor that played the part, producers, directors. All give light to the truth.
I'm a recovering KJO-YEC
I got very poor marks for Grade 12 Biology (in 1982), but am very keen to learn all I can about these lines of evidence for E V O L U T I O N
Please choose "one" and help me understand it?
I known I could search out the answer, but then this wouldn't be a discussion - it'd be a boring old lecture.
So, let's chat.
Seen that video. If memory serves, he just debunks some creationist myths. I don't recall him claiming any of it was evidence for evolution.
In the sense that both sides claim that this evidence supports their position, yes, it does.
However, examination of it reveals that it does not actually function as evidence for creationism.
And you believe everything you hear about this "debunking" because it is the gospel truth or because some guy in a video stated it?
I was asked about evidence used by both believers in the TOE and YEC and I produced it.
I have, many times, stated that people more educated than myself and others on this site, use the same data to promote both theories.
In the end, you will not know the real truth until your heart stops and your eyes open to what's next after this world. At that point your destiny is already cast and in two words... too late.
All of us are in the same boat here. I have my views of what God wants and what I do in order to try to live the way He wants. I have my views on what the future of this earth will endure and what events will take place. I have my views of what will happen when my heart stops.
There are hundreds of people out there who have, or profess to have seen the other side.
There are hundreds of people who profess to seeing the Loch Ness Monster, too. Unevidenced claims don't impress me, even when a lot of people make them.
Save it for the Chick tract.
According to your biased source.....
Are you aware that after mount st Helens blew her top that layers of mud formed near by with similar strata of evolutionists evidence. And in these newly formed strata there are trees, standing upright, roots down and it all happened in one event. Similar to a world wide catastorfic event that ended with the earth flooded.
Also, at Mt. St. Helens, there was a canyon formed not unlike the grand canyon but in smaller proportions.
According to your biased source.....
Are you aware that after mount st Helens blew her top that layers of mud formed near by with similar strata of evolutionists evidence. And in these newly formed strata there are trees, standing upright, roots down and it all happened in one event. Similar to a world wide catastorfic event that ended with the earth flooded. Also, at Mt. St. Helens, there was a canyon formed not unlike the grand canyon but in smaller proportions.
I could give you the webpage of evidence but it's a "biased" source.
In the end, you will not know the real truth until your heart stops and your eyes open to what's next after this world. At that point your destiny is already cast and in two words... too late.What was wrong with his rebuttal?
Except he didn't use it as evidence for the TOE, as far as I know. If you feel he did, please give me the time stamp where he says polystrate fossils support TOE.
Well, let's be accurate, here. Many scientists have data that the feel supports TOE. A small minority think it supports creationism, and they've often been rebutted on this.
I'm a recovering KJO-YEC
I got very poor marks for Grade 12 Biology (in 1982), but am very keen to learn all I can about these lines of evidence for E V O L U T I O N
Please choose "one" and help me understand it?
I known I could search out the answer, but then this wouldn't be a discussion - it'd be a boring old lecture.
So, let's chat.
And then you get the weird and counterintuitive whale evolution which proves that scientists don't assume evolution timelines to such an extent that they will deny information that seems to deviate from expectations.
The bottom line is that if evolution were false we would find fossils of whales and horses in layers of geologic strata.
You say that a lot, RickG. I'd still love you to fully unpack your thoughts in this regard. (perhaps another time?)
You say that a lot, RickG. I'd still love you to fully unpack your thoughts in this regard. (perhaps another time?)
It's just a point I like to make. Too often arguments/discussions get bogged down with specifics concerning genome, DNA, transition fossils, etc. They need to get their head out of the sand and look at the big picture. I have yet to see anyone explain why the fossil record is distributed through out the geologic column as it is without evolution, though sometimes they do invoke to Noah's Flood, which is another problem for them.
Meh, I'm a Biomedical Sciences student, geology isn't really my specialty nor will it likely be in the future.
It's just a point I like to make. Too often arguments/discussions get bogged down with specifics concerning genome, DNA, transition fossils, etc. They need to get their head out of the sand and look at the big picture. I have yet to see anyone explain why the fossil record is distributed through out the geologic column as it is without evolution, though sometimes they do invoke to Noah's Flood, which is another problem for them.
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