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Most of the atheists on here have read the bible. John is considered to be one of the most flawed biblical texts in the NT.
Far be it for me to claim that the Bible is inaccurate about all the things it mentions. I readily accept that the Bible does describe events and people who really existed.
But that doesn't mean it is accurate. The TV show MASH correctly states that there was a Korean War, yet we'd hardly consider it to be a valid source for it.
Do note that belief isn't influenced enough by what a person wants or would be happy believing to be a determining factor by itself. Case in point, myself: being an atheist sucks for me mentally, but despite 6 years of seeking belief, I have yet to attain it.
Someone has been telling you lies to keep you believing, very much like they do when they regularly find Noah's ark only for you to find out they haven't acctually found anything, you want to believe so they keep telling you lies to reinforce those beliefs, you are a victim of your beliefs, one day hopefully you will see it all for what it really is and come to your senses, you will be afraid for a while but in the end you will feel better for it.
Then they will tell you that you weren't a real Christian after all. We all live in hope for you.
Exactly what is this "hope" you have for me? Why are you concerned for me, a Christian?
I can be concerned for other people because I believe that their eternal life is at stake. I can be concerned about what is going to happen to them the millisecond after their eyes close.
Imagine if something was so real to you that you want to make sure everyone you love or are associated to are aware of it. How you would feel if they died and are suddenly aware that you knew and didn't care to convince them.
I have a purpose behind my argument and teaching or "preaching"..
But....you, what are you afraid of for me? If your right, what then of my yammering on here or anywhere. It's all for not and is of no loss to me or you.
However, if I am right, then, I am justifiably concerned for others. As your time on earth is but a spark in the campfire compared to the place you will dwell after your heart stops.
So then, if any baby , not having reached the age of reason, were to be killed, that would be a good thing!
I doubt it it was ever conceived that way. It's many different things, to many different people. It's got a ton of different sorts of literature in it, and it's far from any sort of systematized theology -- though there is some sort of correlation between the two testaments.
Seems a good pro-abortion argument.
I'm surprised at this response. Murder is never a good thing. It may be that the child or child like person is in a better place but to say this justifies killing them.....where did a person like yourself ever come up with that kind of reasoning?
This would border on insane
And what of those who were never exposed to any biblical teachings before they died, regardless of age?
Most of the atheists on here have read the bible. John is considered to be one of the most flawed biblical texts in the NT.
Biased source
Fair enough point, the only time I am concerned about the religions of others is when it drives them to harm others in some way, mentally or physically. If there weren't people who did that in the name of religion, logically most atheists wouldn't care about religion very much at all.
There ya go right there. "Biased source".
So, Sarah, what is your source? Should I, then, state that it is biased due to it having a TOE foundation?
Someone asked for evidence used by both camps, I provided it, it gets slammed because it comes from a site that follows the YE belief.... WOW go figure.
Google Polystrate fossils for yourself. I bet,,, just a hunch, but I bet sources stating that these upright trees that exist in huge layers of strata, are evidence for a flood.... they will be Young Earth sites...
All that state that they are proof of some evolution event..... They will be TOE sites...
Just a hunch.. SO you say my site is biased...... I could say yours is too.
Google Polystrate fossils for yourself. I bet,,, just a hunch, but I bet sources stating that these upright trees that exist in huge layers of strata, are evidence for a flood.... they will be Young Earth sites...
All that state that they are proof of some evolution event..... They will be TOE sites....
It is common usage for "they" to refer to a single person of unknown gender.I wouldn't accept advice from someone who thinks that the word someone is a valid antecedent for the personal pronoun they.
No it isn't, it's a theory. A fact is something entirely different.
Most of the atheists on here have read the bible. John is considered to be one of the most flawed biblical texts in the NT.
Not sure how the anonymous gospel that was later given the title of John, has to do with how personal psychological needs develop in people.
Certainly, one's personal psychological needs, could have great impact on how one interprets and perceives the gospel of John.
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