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No less a big if that anyone has in assuming time is the same far away from earth. All distances to stars and sizes, and the whole standard model and big bang and etc all depend on this belief.And like I said earlier, that's a mighty big IF you have there. And you have nothing at all to support your ideas.
Learn how science works, dad. You'll feel better for it.
They know because they now have very exact clocks, and a time difference is observed as little as less than 10 inches high. Two clocks several inches apart, each registering a difference in the clocks.How do you know that it is different?
They know because they now have very exact clocks, and a time difference is observed as little as less than 10 inches high. Two clocks several inches apart, each registering a difference in the clocks.
They know because they now have very exact clocks, and a time difference is observed as little as less than 10 inches high. Two clocks several inches apart, each registering a difference in the clocks.
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False. Of course we can and do. We do this near and on earth. The whole point being that even here on earth we know time is different as we go up.If there is space separating the clocks then it doesn't count, according to your logic. We can't compare two clocks that are separated by space.
The irony of you citing this is that these experiments are consistent with everything we've already explained to you and contradict your wild assertions. These experimentally confirm general relativity, which consistently and accurately predicts time dilation in the presence of gravitational fields.
Time difference is not random but apparently in a pattern. The further from earth...the more we see!The difference is not random. It is entirely predictable based on height. Or more precisely distance from the center of the gravitational field. This actually confirms the concept of time being a dimension interrelated with spatial dimensions, and that time DOES behave consistently, not randomly as you want desperately to believe.
False. Of course we can and do. We do this near and on earth.
The whole point being that even here on earth we know time is different as we go up.
As soon as you move one angstrom you are in a new space, so you can't compare the two. Those are your rules.
How do we know that?
No idea what you are babbling about. The issue is time, I think, in the thread.As soon as you move one angstrom you are in a new space, so you can't compare the two. Those are your rules.
Experiments in time dilation, in planes, hills, and etc.How do we know that?
Maybe if you cite what is known, we can figure out the we part.I'd like to know who the "we" is supposed to be..dad said that "we know".Just what body of folks constitutes that "we"?..I'm glad I'm not included in that club...
OK, so I mentioned an experiment that could be done cheaply, on this time issue and relativity. Maybe they already did this and someone could point out the results...that is fine.
Gravity is supposed to be what bends timespace and causes the dilation if I have their ideas right. We can leave aside other issues like velocity as they are not needed here.
If time changed as one departed earth and it was due to gravity mainly, then why not get say, 50 precise clocks. Get a precise altimeter. Place maybe 2 or 3 clocks in several key locations. Namely, locations where gravity is more or less!
Place each clock at the exact same altitude. For example..sea level. Maybe also place clocks at a few hundred feet higher in the same areas. Gravity should make a bigger difference in the time dilation, so that in the areas of greater gravity I think we should expect more dilation, right?
Well, why would I care? If we can prove that GR is totally the cause of time difference on earth, it affects me not at all. However, if we found that the expected (predicted by GR) time difference had no real correlation with stronger or weaker gravity at the same altitudes, that would be interesting. You can guess why.And what differences do you predict? How many nanoseconds I(or whatever length of time your prediction is)?
Well, why would I care? If we can prove that GR is totally the cause of time difference on earth, it affects me not at all. However, if we found that the expected (predicted by GR) time difference had no real correlation with stronger or weaker gravity at the same altitudes, that would be interesting. You can guess why.
The idea is to test GR. Put it to the test. Whatever conclusions one may or may not lean towards after that is up to the person looking at the evidence.*staff edit*
Seriously, I can't remember you ever making a valid scientific point to support anything you've suggested.
And when you've finally come close, all you want to do is find something interesting so you can jump to the conclusion that you're pet idea must be the cause of it.
Well, why would I care? If we can prove that GR is totally the cause of time difference on earth, it affects me not at all. However, if we found that the expected (predicted by GR) time difference had no real correlation with stronger or weaker gravity at the same altitudes, that would be interesting. You can guess why.
What distance above sea-level do you have to be to consider yourself no longer "on earth"?
I would consider it escaping the atmosphere.
I'd like to see dad's answer, but in the event it is similar: What altitude would that be, exactly. Because he is saying that the laws of physics begin to change when you leave earth. I'd like to know where this boundary is supposed to be.
The atmosphere doesn't suddenly terminate at any point. It gradually loses density as you climb in altitude. Do dad's different-state physics start at sea level and get crazier as you climb? It there a finite boundary considered to be "off earth"?
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