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Gnosis. Without it, all you have is your own interpretation.
As I said in a previous post...link pong is unending, though it willnot be eternal nor everlasting...lol.
God requires saints to Love all sinners and the wicked because of their spirit... it matters not that most men, almost all men , are in denial of their spirit already , that is part of the trial [baptism of fire]of saints toward early salvation ...
It is sad that there are many that call themselves Christian that buy into the media hype, not knowing that indeed there will be global warming, but that it will be the result of God's vengeance upon a disbelieving generation.
I thnk we can already prove it is mankind causing global warming, not God, that it is the DIRECT result of our uncaring sins ... God's only part init is nt to bail us out this time as He has demonstrably repeatedly done in the past [by means of inexplicable revelations, inspirations for 'new' science that transformed the world and made mankind's growth to 6 billion possible [transiently] ... after all , all God requires from this universe is 144,000 perfected Loving saints to build the kingdom... it's not for want of telling men to Love that He gets so few who actually do stop sinning and Love obeying Jesus...
To worry about global warming, which is a hoax designed to cast fear into the hearts of men that do not rest in Jesus Christ, is to be preoccupied about the things of the world, rather than the things of God.
well Hansen just proved very scientifically that it ain't a hoax, as many have before him... it is only BIG money that pays for 'denialists' and they have run out of objections now , sadly it was too late for any response to save mankind decades ago ... we are just waiting for the broken web of life to die , aided dramatically by massive vulcanism when the Greenland ice-sheet disappears in the next two decades ... world class demographic scientists have said already that mankind cannot last beyond this century, but they didn't catch up on the news about the vulcanism yet... global warming is only the CAUSE of massive vulcanism, it never gets to be a major threat itself ... just as scripture says , the end is the most terrible time mankind ever has had or will have, so look at the bad times in the past [mankind was once reduced to a single tribe according to genetic studies] and the end is sudden and unexpected except by those who watch the signs in scripture unfolding [as they are , the biggest one being the coming collapse of capitalism which ushers in world government, NWO, and unification of religion of sinners against the few saints- Rev 13:3-4
- the irony is that mankind is fixing global cooling by cleaning up industry, that is as amusing as it is tragic in consequence, but we might as well laugh because it is too late to save the Greenland ice sheet, it will melt and the volcanoes underneath will all erupt together ... the bible says it is the greatest earthquake ever... earth quakes trigger both earthquakes and vulcanism, we are by no means ready for the chain reaction...This link says "global cooling," this links says "global cooling does not deny global warming," and I say...whatever.
yes, of course, that;'s what this place is for ...Have you considered, strangertoo, what I said?
You respond by posting some guy who I guess you believe is suppose to be an authority? lol
well to me God is the authority [from spirit baptism] but that witness is only available if one stops sinning, so few have it, the bible is widely accepted in at least notional sense , so I use that a lot, but as for observing the signs [and signs of coming signs] ,one has to rely somewhat on other folks, and scientists have a better rep than politicians or religionists for facing the tuth in the case of making observations..
Are you aware that we have a recent trend of global cooling? That is fact. The earth temperature dropped from about 1940 to 1970, I think it was.
like I pointed out, that denialist claim was paid for by big industry, so you should check who is paying the bills before accepting the propaganda ... but it wouldn't even make a difference if that were true, the Arctic is warming faster than anywhere else about twice as fast as predicted and accelerating... once the Greenland ice sheet is gone mankind is on its last legs , we cannot live without sunlight for years , and indeed teh science now agrees with scripture , a sudden largely unexpected blotting out of the sun by massive vulcanism and earthquakes which indeed will be triggered as soon as the pressure of miles-thick ice is gone which currently prevents vapourisation in the magma chambers of huge under-ice volcanoes ... one going of we would survive , all together, no chance ..
The point is that we do not have a sufficient record to adequately pinpoint what is going to happen. In the Tribulation, we will see cataclysmic natural phenomena, so whatever happens, no matter how much mankind does to try to avoid those events...they are going to happen.
well I agree that we cannot stop it, but that is because we didn't listen to the warnings over fifty years ago ... brinkmanship with the stability of nature is an absurd game that doesn't even make monetary sense [as the Stern report proved with very conservative figures] ... but there are many scientists already who understand the sequence leading up to it and the stages , and unsurprisingly they are just what God said they would be...
It is more likely that it is God, not man, that is setting into motion, is setting the stage, so to speak, that prophecy be fulfilled. So will I worry about Greenland Ice Sheet?
No, I will worry about lost souls.
lost souls is only lost lives my friend... all are resurrected from hell -Rev 20:13... that is integral to God's Plan, all declared for anyone to read who will ... deaths are hardly anything to be concerned about, all lives are restored in the kingdom and it is a much nicer place than this earth, Loving in extreme , no sin allowed under pain of swiftish [second] death to remove sin yet again [Rom 6:7] ... and countless many saved at judgement day -Rev 7:9-10 - who are all clearly destroyed in this earth -Matt 7:13-14
no, the purpose in watching the signs is to understand when the final antichrist will rule so one can get out of his way... as he will be requiring oath of allegiance from all in the world by many proofs in action [not least absolute control of all money]
And it is no coincidence that most of the people that but into global warming and are consumed with it, are also deeply involved with other secular humanistic concerns, such as saving whales and trees while babies are slaughtered by the thousands.
many environmentalists got it wrong , so what ? ...they tried with their limited knowledge and like many frittered away resources on projects that didn't work because they weren't big enough, comprehensive enough... but there are a few successful stories too... none of it matters , God only cares about saving the few who Love , none who are still sinning against anyone... that is about 2000-5000 saints still alive scattered worldwide... they never were enough to feed the poor or save the planet from capitalists and religion of sinners, but that is because so few listen to Jesus COMMAND to Love , almost all religionists still sin habitually , will do so to their death, Jesus will reject them :-
Matthew 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Luke 13:27 But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity.
2 Timothy 2:19 Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.
Go figure.
And just to be fair, I would liken this to a hyper preoccupation with things political. I know people that can tell you what Glenn Beck had for breakfast but could not work their way through a single passage of scripture and give a reasonable explanation of meaning for that passage.
I cannot imagine either of us is interested so why raise the matter?
Do I believe the earth warms and cools?
Of course...it is scientific fact, and we do have enough data available to make this determination.
But do I think that the earth is going to experience events such as are depicted in propaganda films like "The Day After Tomorrow?" Not really. It is God that has laid the foundations of this earth, and it is He that will destroy it. There will be global warming, it is written:
well the science is better than you indicate, but who cares?
Revelation 8
King James Version (KJV)
7 The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up.
Revelation 16:8-9
King James Version (KJV)
8 And the fourth angel poured out his vial upon the sun; and power was given unto him to scorch men with fire.
9 And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give him glory.
2 Peter 3:10-13
King James Version (KJV)
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
Revelation 20
King James Version (KJV)
1 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
I wonder if you gathered the symbols
Yes, I believe in global warming, but it has little resemblance to the "science" of those that in large part follow after the religion of Secular Humanism.
some humanists are very Loving indeed, far more than most religious capitalists for instance
it is clear from scripture which God prefers , whoever does what He commands, Love... and it ain't religious sinners who Love most...
1 John 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil
Be not dismayed brother.I made a few posts here, this will be my last.
I try to pray on the many things I post. Sometimes I have to go back and correct myself, because I am fallible. I have no interest in where the devil and his angels, or wickedness goes in the end. To me it is a waste of my precious prayer time seeking knowledge of such things. As Jesus said "let the dead bury their dead", then let the those "bent on hell, find knowledge about hell". Not me.
Be not dismayed brother.
Hades the place of departed spirits, and Gehenna the place of fire and distruction, by the same word 'hell' and thus confusing two ideas wholly distinct.
In such a passage as Acts ii. 27, 31 the misconception thus created is very serious. Is it possible even now to naturalise the word Hades and give it a place in our Version ? Or must we be satisfied with pointing out in the margin in each case whether the word 'hell' represents Hades or Gehenna?
Act 2:27 Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.
31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.
The birds coming and devouring the seed sown by the way side are interpreted to mean ερχεται ο πονηρος και αρπαζει το εσπαρμενον
Mat 13:19 When anyone hears the word of the kingdom and does not understand it, the wicked comes and snatches away what has been sown in his heart. This is what was sown along the path.
Mar 4:4 And it came to pass as he sowed, one fell by the wayside, and the birds came and devoured it.
Parkhurst, A Greek English Lexicon of the New Testament
As I said in a previous post...link pong is unending, though it willnot be eternal nor everlasting...lol.
It is sad that there are many that call themselves Christian that buy into the media hype, not knowing that indeed there will be global warming, but that it will be the result of God's vengeance upon a disbelieving generation.
To worry about global warming, which is a hoax designed to cast fear into the hearts of men that do not rest in Jesus Christ, is to be preoccupied about the things of the world, rather than the things of God.
This link says "global cooling," this links says "global cooling does not deny global warming," and I say...whatever.
Have you considered, strangertoo, what I said?
Are you aware that we have a recent trend of global cooling? That is fact. The earth temperature dropped from about 1940 to 1970, I think it was.
The point is that we do not have a sufficient record to adequately pinpoint what is going to happen. In the Tribulation, we will see cataclysmic natural phenomena, so whatever happens, no matter how much mankind does to try to avoid those events...they are going to happen.
It is more likely that it is God, not man, that is setting into motion, is setting the stage, so to speak, that prophecy be fulfilled. So will I worry about Greenland Ice Sheet?
No, I will worry about lost souls.
And it is no coincidence that most of the people that get into global warming and are consumed with it, are also deeply involved with other secular humanistic concerns, such as saving whales and trees while babies are slaughtered by the thousands.
Matthew 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Luke 13:27 But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity.
2 Timothy 2:19 Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.
Go figure.
And just to be fair, I would liken this to a hyper preoccupation with things political. I know people that can tell you what Glenn Beck had for breakfast but could not work their way through a single passage of scripture and give a reasonable explanation of meaning for that passage.
Do I believe the earth warms and cools?
Of course...it is scientific fact, and we do have enough data available to make this determination.
But do I think that the earth is going to experience events such as are depicted in propaganda films like "The Day After Tomorrow?" Not really. It is God that has laid the foundations of this earth, and it is He that will destroy it. There will be global warming, it is written:
Revelation 8
King James Version (KJV)
7 The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up.
Revelation 16:8-9
King James Version (KJV)
8 And the fourth angel poured out his vial upon the sun; and power was given unto him to scorch men with fire.
9 And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give him glory.
2 Peter 3:10-13
King James Version (KJV)
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
Revelation 20
King James Version (KJV)
1 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
Ahhh, much better. A little editing an voila! A post that can actually be understood.Nope.
I will answer a question of my own, though:
Have you considered, strangertoo, what I said?
How does the song go? "Same old story, same old song and dance...my friend."
God bless.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_HansenThe United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change is an international environmental treaty that has the objective of stabilizing greenhouse gas concentrations in the atmosphere at a level that would prevent dangerous anthropogenic interference with the climate system.
In 2003 Hansen wrote a paper called Can We Defuse the Global Warming Time Bomb? in which he argues that human-caused forces on the climate are now greater than natural ones, and that this, over a long time period, can cause large climate changes.[31] He further states that a lower limit on “dangerous anthropogenic interference” is set by the stability of the Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets. His view on actions to mitigate climate change is that "halting global warming requires urgent, unprecedented international cooperation, but the needed actions are feasible and have additional benefits for human health, agriculture and the environment."
In a 2004 presentation at the University of Iowa, Hansen announced that he was told by high-ranking government officials not to talk about how anthropogenic influence could have a dangerous effect on climate because it's not understood what 'dangerous' means, or how humans are actually affecting climate. He describes this as a Faustian bargain because atmospheric aerosols have health risks, and should be reduced, but doing so will effectively increase the warming effects from CO2.[32]
Hansen and coauthors propose that the global mean temperature is a good tool to diagnose dangerous anthropogenic interference with the climate system. Two elements are particularly important when discussing dangerous anthropogenic interference: sea level rise and the extinction of species. They describe a business-as-usual scenario, which has greenhouse gases growing at approximately 2% per year; and an alternate scenario, in which greenhouse gases concentrations decline. Under the alternate scenario, sea levels could rise by 1 meter per century, causing problems due to the dense population in coastal areas. But this would be minor compared to the 10-meter increase in sea level under the business-as-usual scenario. Hansen describes the situation with species extinction similarly to that of sea level rise. Assuming the alternate scenario, the situation is not good, but it is much worse for business as usual.[20]
The concept of dangerous anthropogenic interference was clarified in a 2007 paper, finding that further warming of 1 °C would be highly disruptive to humans. An alternate scenario would keep the warming to below this if climate sensitivity were below 3 °C for doubled CO2. The conclusion is that CO2 levels above 450 ppm are considered dangerous, but that reduction in non-CO2 greenhouse gases can provide temporary relief from drastic CO2 cuts. Further findings are that arctic climate change has been forced by non-CO2 constituents as much as by CO2. The 2007 paper cautions that prompt action is needed to slow CO2 growth and to prevent a dangerous anthropogenic interference.[33]
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