Lesson of the Flood Story

LifeToTheFullest! · Mar 17, 2009

Dawkins says it best:

"The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully." - Richard Dawkins, The God Delusion

MoonLancer · Mar 17, 2009

AV1611VET said:
Cheer up --- Jesus saves!

face?

BananaSlug · Mar 17, 2009

LittleNipper said:
JESUS asked the rich young ruler, "Why do you call me good. Only GOD is good." I would say JESUS disagreed with your accessment.

Does that mean Jesus is admitting he is not God?

BananaSlug · Mar 17, 2009

LifeToTheFullest! said:
Dawkins says it best:

"The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully." - Richard Dawkins, The God Delusion

And this God tells us not to do this stuff at the same time!

MoonLancer · Mar 17, 2009

BananaSlug said:
And this God tells us not to do this stuff at the same time!

so guess we can add hypocrite to the list.

Nathan Poe · Mar 17, 2009

AV1611VET said:
As the late Dr Henry M Morris points out in his Defender's Study Bible, when God approached Job, He chided Job --- not for assuming God was punishing him for something he was doing wrong --- but for not understanding His Creation.

Study the questions, they all have to do with His Creation, and Job not having a proper understanding of it.

Not having a proper understanding of Genesis 1, will eventually lead to error somewhere.

Except "Genesis 1" is not one of God's creations.

Nathan Poe · Mar 17, 2009

AV1611VET said:
Cheer up --- Jesus saves!

LittleNipper · Mar 18, 2009

GoSeminoles! said:
Yahweh as described in the Old Testament is an evil piece of garbage.

Let's just see if you will tell HIM that come your Judgment Day. My take is that GOD saw the terrible things various communities did and knew the terrible things those people thought. GOD certainly knows every intention.

So GOD eliminated the baby burners and the sex fiends and murderers to protect the righteous and pave a path for CHRIST to come into this would and save it from itself.

LittleNipper · Mar 18, 2009

LifeToTheFullest! said:
Dawkins says it best:

"The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully." - Richard Dawkins, The God Delusion

Tell me of the artist or creative individual that isn't finiky about what he creates. I mean the reality is, YOU belong to GOD's will. GOD's will is not in anyway encumbered to your expectations of HIM or otherwise.

Dawkins would seem to be the fool...

Naraoia · Mar 18, 2009

BananaSlug said:
I want to see if people who take the story literally miss the greater meaning behind it.

If you really want to see this then maybe it wasn't the best idea to state it in the OP

OT: @GoSeminoles!: where did you get that signature?

LifeToTheFullest! · Mar 18, 2009

LittleNipper said:
Tell me of the artist or creative individual that isn't finiky about what he creates. I mean the reality is, YOU belong to GOD's will. GOD's will is not in anyway encumbered to your expectations of HIM or otherwise.

Dawkins would seem to be the fool...

Apparently Dawkins forgot to add "finiky" to the list.

BTW, how do you know I belong to your god, and not say, Budha, Allah, or the FSM? Maybe we all belong to Xenu (Maybe Tom's been right this whole time. Who knew?).

Nathan Poe · Mar 18, 2009

LittleNipper said:
Let's just see if you will tell HIM that come your Judgment Day. My take is that GOD saw the terrible things various communities did and knew the terrible things those people thought. GOD certainly knows every intention.

And preemptively kills evil doers before they can do evil?

So GOD eliminated the baby burners and the sex fiends and murderers to protect the righteous and pave a path for CHRIST to come into this would and save it from itself.

Then GOD failed, as He would've had to -- the righteous don't need saving from themselves.

In any case, Jesus certainly didn't come to save the righteous -- but to rebuke them (the self-righteous, anyway)

LittleNipper · Mar 19, 2009

Nathan Poe said:
And preemptively kills evil doers before they can do evil?

Then GOD failed, as He would've had to -- the righteous don't need saving from themselves.

In any case, Jesus certainly didn't come to save the righteous -- but to rebuke them (the self-righteous, anyway)

Well, actually that is very merciful. The Bible seems to indicate to me that there are levels of punishment in hell, just as there are levels of reward in heaven. So by GOD ending the life a an evil person early on, HE is extending mercy by not allowing that individual to dig his own eternity...

GOD never fails. The only way the present day saved individuals could have ever existed would have been to allow the fall of man. GOD foreknew and predestined CHRIST to die for the sins of all, fully aware that there were going to be other very foolish individuals who would thumb their noses and miss out on the rest of the story...

LittleNipper · Mar 19, 2009

LifeToTheFullest! said:
Apparently Dawkins forgot to add "finiky" to the list.

BTW, how do you know I belong to your god, and not say, Budha, Allah, or the FSM? Maybe we all belong to Xenu (Maybe Tom's been right this whole time. Who knew?).

Dawkins doesn't believe in an all knowing all powerful GOD. So he paints his own untrue picture to cover his own ignorance...

LifeToTheFullest! · Mar 19, 2009

LittleNipper said:
Dawkins doesn't believe in an all knowing all powerful GOD. So he paints his own untrue picture to cover his own ignorance...

You keep referring to Dawkins as ignorant. I'm just curious as to why you seem so sure to describe him this way.

LittleNipper · Mar 19, 2009

LifeToTheFullest! said:
You keep referring to Dawkins as ignorant. I'm just curious as to why you seem so sure to describe him this way.

Perhaps you might ask Dawkins why he believes Creationists to be such...

Danyc · Mar 19, 2009

LittleNipper said:
Tell me of the artist or creative individual that isn't finiky about what he creates. I mean the reality is, YOU belong to GOD's will. GOD's will is not in anyway encumbered to your expectations of HIM or otherwise.

Dawkins would seem to be the fool...

A fool for doing what?

Not believing in something that has absolutely no proof?

I'm a Christian too, but you can't call atheists fools. They're not.

LifeToTheFullest! · Mar 19, 2009

LittleNipper said:
Perhaps you might ask Dawkins why he believes Creationists to be such...

Seems to me you're mad at Dawkins for pointing out inconsistencies with creationism. So you make ad hominen remarks. Am I wrong?

LittleNipper · Mar 20, 2009

Danyc said:
A fool for doing what?

Not believing in something that has absolutely no proof?

I'm a Christian too, but you can't call atheists fools. They're not.

GOD already calls those that say their is no GOD in their hearts fools. I'm not the one who labeled them as such.

The fool says in their heart that there is no GOD. Psalm 14:1

Dawkins is essentually calling every "Christian" a fool for believing (in his term) stories regarding such a terrible made up GOD. He calls me a fool. I'm simply saying GOD calls him one. As a "Christian" yourself, whose authority do you believe carries the most weight --- GOD or Mr. Dawkins?

LittleNipper · Mar 20, 2009

LifeToTheFullest! said:
Seems to me your mad at Dawkins for pointing out inconsistencies with creationism. So you make ad hominen remarks. Am I wrong?

I'm concerned that men like Dawkins have nearly full control of our public educational system without affording any time to creation. Am I wrong?

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