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Itagaki

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So you say.

But I have outright heard Catholics tell me, "Singleness is superior to marriage" and they cite 1 Cor. 7 and Jesus and Paul (despite the fact he was married) as examples. I'm only telling you as I've heard. The early church fathers also had a negative view of marriage, I've read Jerome, Augustine and Tertullian. They were NOT pro-marriage, pro-women or pro-sexuality.

And this is all rooted in gnosticism, by the way. 'Spirit is good, flesh (matter) is evil, so it's best not to pollute ourselves with the sinfulness of the flesh and pursue holiness in the spirit.'
 
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PaladinValer said:
steve, ignore him; it wouldn't matter if you quoted the CCC; he doesn't care about what your church officially teaches and believes; he merely wishes to live based on a Straw Man version of it.
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It's mostly irrelevant. Would you like me to start posting quotes by your church fathers that lambasted marriage, sex and women to prove my earlier point? I can happily oblige, if you desire.
 
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It may be that you feel the call to a contemplative or service life as a member of a religious order (nun or sister) MORE than you are to the religion (Catholicism) most often thought of in connection with such a life.

Have you considered pursuing that calling in one of the churches that also makes provision for such a thing but doesn't have the doctrinal profile that Catholicism has, and which you are concerned about? The Episcopal Church, for example. It also has nuns, brothers, etc.
 
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Itagaki said:
It's mostly irrelevant. Would you like me to start posting quotes by your church fathers that lambasted marriage, sex and women to prove my earlier point? I can happily oblige, if you desire.
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I already gave you St. Augustine in previous months. I've also given you the CCC, which is THE authoritative source on Vatican Catholic belief and practice. Your opinions that don't reflect those facts are invalid and are of absolutely no consequence.

In short, your views are wrong and you willingly lie about steve's church each time you speak them. Is lying a Christian virtue?
 
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I'm pretty sure I'm not a "christian" because I'm not catholic, in their eyes, so whatever. Unlike most here, I actually do not make it a habit to lie.

With that said, I'd wonder why you, a non-catholic, is so obsessed with their dogmas. It holds no power over me, or anyone else for that matter, just so you know.

As for Augustine, he regarded marriage as a necessary evil, sex as dirty and sinful and women as little better than dogs. Do you deny this?
 
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Strider1002 said:
If you want to debate so badly, Itagaki, why don't you go to the Formal Debates forum, instead of hijacking the threads of people who actually want advice?
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If you looked above, you'd see I gave my response, then the catholic defense force started debating me. I'm polite and always answer someone if they quote me. I have zero interest in debating. A complete waste of time.
 
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I'm not Vatican Catholic, I'm English Catholic. Look at my icon.

You clearly don't know what either my or the Vatican Church believe, so again, your opinion is null and void. And if you want to quote mine St. Augustine, you are welcome to all you want, though you are wrong to do so.
 
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