Knight in Shinning Armor?

Chaplain David · Nov 18, 2011

Hello everyone,

I've noticed some sarcastic remarks which really detract from the wholesomeness of what we are trying to say.

Definition of Sarcasm from Mirriam Webster online:

1 a sharp and often satirical or ironic utterance designed to cut or give pain

2 a mode of satirical wit depending for its effect on bitter, caustic, and often ironic language that is usually directed against an individual

A fitting verse regarding better ways we can treat each other is:

"Since God chose you to be the holy people he loves, you must clothe yourselves with tenderhearted mercy, kindness, humility, gentleness, and patience."
(Colossians 3:12 New Living Translation Bible)

Athene · Nov 18, 2011

Autumnleaf said:
What about the dashing and impetuous Sir Elton John? Can't you feel the love tonight?

:shudders:

Created2Write · Nov 18, 2011

dreamer1982 said:
Er, okay, then to answer your question more directly, no, I do not see my husband as my hero or my knight in shining armour. Fairy tales are cute but nothing more to me. In real life we are equals, we are both fallible and sinful humans who are doing our best. I love him very, very much but I don't put him on a pedestal. I reserve that spot for Christ and Christ alone.

Hmmm. I don't see that giving one's husband a "title" is the same as putting him on a pedestal. I see a pedestal as creating an idol out of one's spouse. As we know from the Bible, we are only to make an idol out of Christ, and worship Him alone. My husband is not my idol or Savior, nor is he my superior. I am his equal. I just see him as someone worthy to be called something sweet, like "Knight in shinning armor".

Created2Write · Nov 18, 2011

sdmsanjose said:
Both. But before I explain I want to post a few posts below that will help me explain

Created seems to be a romantic in a fairytale way
Dallas seems to be very practical
Niffer seems to be very supportive and nourishing

Actually all three are supportive and nourishing it is just that Niffer nailed the words. I mean she just hit the right words to say to support most men that I know.

Ok now for my answer in more detail.

In our dating and the early part of our marriage my wife was more like Created and that really helped me a lot. To use a phrase from a comedy that jack Nicolson was in, You make me want to be a better man Yea, I know it sounds corny but for me it is true and I have thanked my wife more than once for being like Created.

After the very early years my wife was more like Niffer. That kind of support gives you the strength to face the crap you get in the world and keeps you from starting to doubt yourself.

Like Dallas I am a little older than most on this board and that is when the practical realities of life are needed most. Yes, my wife is a vital part of me, my identity as I am for her. A lot of the worldly excitement that got my attention no longer is very exciting. I now put more value on having someone to share life with. Who better than the woman who has been by your side for decades and with you brought children into the world?

When my wife was like Created she made me feel Like the King of the World.

When my wife was like Niffer I was able to overcome adversity better with her help.

When my wife was like Dallas I realized that we are connected for a lifetime and that we enjoy sharing our life together.

Now I am going to borrow a little from practical Dallas. After decades of marriage life cannot be constantly sustained with all the wonderful things that I said above even though they are true most or some of the time. There are times in my marriage when none of the above is happening.

However I will close with this.

Created
You keep on seeing your husband as your knight in shinning armor; I think that every man loves that. That kind of spice in life adds so much!

Niffer
You will keep your man prepared to overcome adversity; you may not even know how valuable you are in your ways of helping your husband

Dallas
Your practical viewpoint helps to sustain a marriage for the long haul. Your principle of commitment is the rock of Gibraltar of marriage.

My wife has been Created, Niffer, and Dallas and that has contributed to our 42 years of marriage.

Stan

Wonderful post Stan! Thanks for sharing, and thanks for the encouragement. As long as Jason calls me "his Princess", he will be my "Prince".

Created2Write · Nov 18, 2011

Conservativation said:
Wow....I recommend men stop any and all assistance to women, its offensive, it creates the idea they cant do it themselves, and since we are equal, perfectly exactly equal, it seems best to not protect her or assist her, because if she was being attacked by some guy, she is equal and can defend herself, if she was harmed then, it would be a virtue that the husband didnt deign step in because for some reason to consider a husband for protection sometimes is to violate the one rule that cannot be violated, and that is there are no differences in genders and best not let any notion that there is creep into thinking, because it seems a lot of folks process the word "difference" as meaning one better than the other.

The process by which society rots accelerates. A society where men chose to not be in any way protective is a very vulnerable one....well, no it isn't, because the women can manage themselves.

LOL. I agree, but careful. You might derail my thread with this kind of talk.

Created2Write · Nov 18, 2011

Athene said:
In the UK, our knights are predominantly middle-aged men. They usually get knighted for being very rich. It's hard to be romantic about knights when the first thing that springs to mind when you think of one is Sir Richard Branson or Sir Alan Sugar, or Sir Winston Churchill.

Indeed.

I'm more referring to the metaphorical fairy tale type, but then I don't like in the UK. It's probably easier for me to separate the two.

Created2Write · Nov 18, 2011

dreamer1982 said:
Rarw! That's a hot way to start a honeymoon!

Hahahaha! That was a kind of "hot" I could have done without, actually. But thanks God he was there and saw me. I was right below a lifeguard, managed to scream for help, but the stupid guy didn't even move. Looked right at me and stayed where he was sitting.

Conservativation · Nov 18, 2011

Niffer said:
Cons, I don't really see anyone here making that statement or argument.
In fact the last few pages have been stories about 'heroic' husbands who have literally 'saved' their wives.
I don't know which post sent you into defensive-mode, but don't let one post you don't like, colour an entire thread.

Peace brother,
- Niffer

It was several posts about his being equal.....dadgummit

chaz345 · Nov 18, 2011

Created2Write said:
Hahahaha! That was a kind of "hot" I could have done without, actually. But thanks God he was there and saw me. I was right below a lifeguard, managed to scream for help, but the stupid guy didn't even move. Looked right at me and stayed where he was sitting.

Did anyone talk to the lifeguard or his supervisor? That seems like a very dangerous situation for the person who is supposed to be ensuring safety to be so apathetic.

Conservativation · Nov 18, 2011

Its against the lor to have male lifeguards

except where thong burkas are worn

dallasapple · Nov 18, 2011

I would like to comment on my husband saving my life..In the reverse I would do the SAME for him ..What he did has NOTHING to do with us beign 'different" i.e Hes the "male" my "knight and shining armor" and Im the "female' "damsel in distress"..

1)..Hes apparently is the TYPE (some arent men or women)..to not think about the danger he was putting him self in he just lept into action..

2) He LOVES ME..I dont know if he would have done the same thing for a stranger or not..in fact had it been a stranger he may not have noticed they were in distress..as he was in the water with me..I swam out further..when he turned around to find me I had been DRAGGED very far out..

3) He happned to know (have knowledge) of WHAT to do in a rip tide I did NOT..which is to swim PARRALLEL to the shore..so he swan straight to me..grabbed me by one arm and said KICK!Then he swam while holding on to me..and me kicking at an ANGLE instead of striaght forward and he got both of us out of the undertoe that way..then we could swim back to the shore..

So this has nothign to do with him being a male and me being a female..its the KIND of man he is ..and I am a PARTICULAR female ..whom he was NOT going to let drown ..or lets say ..he would die trying not to let that happen..because he LOVES ME..

In that situation of course we were NOT equal..as I was DROWNING and he was NOT..he had knowledge that I did NOT about rip tides..and he happended to be on the younger side of 30 and pretty fit.

Another man may have been AFRAID..another man might have thought he could save me..got out there ..but had no knowldege of what was happening in the water and BOTH of us coud have drowned..

I dont see this at ALL as a "male female" thing beyond..yep..hes a male..and yep..Im a female..the DETAILS have nothing to do with 'gender".

It was his LOVE for me..his ability physically and his KNOWLEDGE ..and his apparent "go to instinct in THAT situation that saved me..Its not REDUCED to "oh thats how men are"..some men ARENT that way..some men may not have been willing or ABLE to help me.

Either way ..Im grateful..I truly KNOW what it feels like..to be acutely aware..you are fixing to die..its a helpless very very humbling experience..I felt very very small in that water..

Dallas

c1ners · Nov 18, 2011

lol! I jumped out of the boat one day to cool off and got carried away by the current. My husband just stood in the boat watching me. I didn't expect him to jump in after me, but it would have been nice if he at least would have pulled in the anchor and came after me with the boat. No, he is not my knight in shining armour, but that's okay. He is my husband and that to me is more important then a knight in shining armour. One seems to be a dream and one is reality.

dallasapple · Nov 18, 2011

c1ners said:
lol! I jumped out of the boat one day to cool off and got carried away by the current. My husband just stood in the boat watching me. I didn't expect him to jump in after me, but it would have been nice if he at least would have pulled in the anchor and came after me with the boat. No, he is not my knight in shining armour, but that's okay. He is my husband and that to me is more important then a knight in shining armour. One seems to be a dream and one is reality.

Well my husband isnt a knight in shining armour either thats the point.But the truth is ..I wouldnt be here today.I would have drowned..I was already drowning..another 5 maybe 10 mintues I would have not been able to fight any more..I was already only able to go under the water and after a swell went over me I could touch the bottom(the water was risign and falling many feet) and then JUMP up out of the water gasp..then go back under..wait ..touch the bottom JUMP up gasp for air and so on..while that was happening I was also beign pulled every time the swell went over me..several feet back into the ocean my legs and body were being DRAGGED out to sea....I was beign SUCKED into the ocean..I would have died..

IOW if my husband had not acted..I would have died 16 years ago..(I think its been that long LOL>..)..Thats what Im saying..he didnt just 'help me" he SAVED my LIFE..there was NO way ..I could have gotten out of that..none..

The "funny "thing is ..once I dragged my trembling choking sobbing exausted body onto the sand ...I said...you saved my life...He said in perfect Andy style..(and he was out of breath too just not a rag doll like me)...Nah...you would have been fine.

Dallas

Conservativation · Nov 18, 2011

Of course its not a male female thing....nothing is

Lilymay · Nov 18, 2011

I am not a fairy tale romantic... so for me, he is not my knight... he is my husband.

c1ners · Nov 18, 2011

I think calling them a knight or a prince once in a while would stoke their ego, but the best compliment any woman could give a man would be to call him husband.

c1ners · Nov 18, 2011

Conservativation said:
Of course its not a male female thing....nothing is

Maybe it's a blonde thing, but I have no idea why you sometimes say things that obviously have no relevance to the thread what-so-ever. Is it for post count?

Nienna_Lady_of_Tears · Nov 18, 2011

As a shieldmaiden myself, I didn't feel the need to have a knight in shining armor for a husband. When I was a girl, yes, I did fall in love with a guy who had fought for me, but as a teenager I became much stronger.

Basically in my relationship, I did the rescuing.

Conservativation · Nov 18, 2011

c1ners said:
Maybe it's a blonde thing, but I have no idea why you sometimes say things that obviously have no relevance to the thread what-so-ever. Is it for post count?

hint....read post 71, i answered it.

Maybe it is a blond thing, this is two in a row youve said had nothing to do with the thread they were in.....meanwhile there both were absolutely completely relevant.

Please, just because you dont make the connection doesnt mean its not there.

no, its not post count, you are just missing the points i guess

Athene · Nov 18, 2011

Created2Write said:
Indeed.

I'm more referring to the metaphorical fairy tale type, but then I don't like in the UK. It's probably easier for me to separate the two.

Probably. Now thanks to AL, I'll have Elton Johns ugly mug leaping to mind when I think of knights.

There's a lot to be said for having a guy who will be there for you, the minute you need him. Is it the same for the men here, is it important for you that you can depend on your wives to help you out of a bind?

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