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Jesuit final vows - an experience

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Tonks

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Tomorrow I have the honor of experiecing the "Solemn Profession in the Society of Jesus" for the masters advisor of a certain lady-friend of mine. It should prove to be an interesting experience to say the least. For those unaware of the rigorus Jesuit formation here is the email that Father sent:

This Saturday, April 22, at 3 p.m. in Dahlgren Chapel I will be
taking my Final Vows in the Society of Jesus. As for what this is
all about, the text below explains the formation process for Jesuits.
What is Solemn Profession in the Society of Jesus?
The training of Jesuits has from the time of Saint Ignatius been a
long road. Each man begins with two years of novitiate before taking
first vows. At this time the man vows perpetual poverty, chastity,
and obedience and promises to enter the Society of Jesus at a later
time. This last promise seems odd, as the man has been a Jesuit for
over two years by the end of the novitiate. What is meant by this
promise is that the Jesuit promises to continue training or formation
until such a time that the Superior General of the Order invites the
man to enter fully into the order with Solemn Profession. And so,
after the novitiate the training continues for many years. Between
first vows and final vows, or between novitiate and final vows, the
man prepares for a life as a priest and as a teacher (whether in a
traditional school setting or elsewhere).
A Jesuit's training includes three years of philosophy and four years
of theology, years of languages, and numerous instances of field
education (usually called experiments) in a variety of locales and
works (often teaching high school for several years). After
ordination (a minimum nine years after novitiate) the man may be
asked to go on for further studies in a chosen field. Only after
completing any post-ordination studies and after working for at least
three years after studies is the training almost but not quite
complete. One final year of formation occurs in which the man re-does
the first year of the novitiate, including the famous Spiritual
Exercises of Saint Ignatius Loyola (also known as the 30 Day
Retreat). At this point the Society of Jesus evaluates the man to see
if the formation stuck and, if so, the General invites the man to
final vows. All told, the timeline is a minimum 16 years and often
exceeds 25 years! For example, Fr. Zimmer's timeline stretches back
23 years.
The Jesuits are often asked what is different about their final vows.

One famous difference is that there are not three, but four vows. All
religious orders take the three primary vows of poverty, chastity and
obedience; Jesuits take a fourth one of obedience to the Pope for
mission. So, when the Supreme Pontiff needs well-trained priests to
do things that others cannot or will not do, he asks the Society of
Jesus to send men to work in the area. Only professed Jesuits may be
named to certain positions within the order; solemn profession being
the mark of one who is both properly trained and fully available for
any work for the Church within the Society of Jesus.
 

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Interesting reading Tonks. I quoted the last paragraph (bold emphasis mine) because it saddens me. Saddens me because I have a fondness for the Society of Jesus. St. Isaac Jogues is one of my favorite saints. I have no doubt that St. Isaac Jogues took this fourth vow, meant it, lived by it and even died by it. Nowadays, I wonder how many Jesuits take this fourth vow and really understand what it means.

St. Ignatius of Loyola, pray for us.
St. Isaac Jogues, pray for us.
 
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God be with you Tonks,

I didn't know the formation of a Jesuit was so long. One would think that such intensity should be bullet proof at building and sustaining orthodox priests, but somehow modernism has seemed to even creep into this process. Hopefully this is changing though.

Btw, I too will be attending an ordination of a couple priests (diocesian) in a couple weeks. I'm very much looking forward to it.

Blessings,

-Davide
 
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Yes, the Jesuits have extensive training, theological studies, ministry in the field, etc. even before ordination. Seems to me as I remember it is 16 years including one year of theological studies after ordination.

My husband and I had been part of the early Jesuit Volunteer Corps. and we met at the ordination of a Jesuit priest. That was well over 40 years ago. The priest is now living in a retirement place for Jesuits and ministers only part time. He was a bit older than the others when he was ordained having served in the Armed Forces. It always delights him to see us and mention how we met.

Every so often when I am in the town where I went to college, graduate school, and knew so many good Jesuit priests I visit their cemetary. So many of my former teachers and mentors are there. One of the purposes for which the Society of Jesus (Jesuits) was founded by St. Ignatius of Loyola was for loyalty and support of the Holy Father...a spiritual army for Christ as it were. I know my old friends lived these principals in another time and another era. I hope to greet them someday and I pray that all Jesuits will return to the vision of their founder.
 
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One thing they won't tell you is that you need exceptional academic abilities and intellectual skills to be even admitted into the novitiate. Much of the time, what seems modernism on their part is only their greater latitude in experimenting and formulating new theological concepts. But they seldom really step out of line - more rarely than the average theologian, I think.
 
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Rising_Suns said:
I didn't know the formation of a Jesuit was so long.

Blessed Be!!...Tonks...the longer I spend my time with Jesuits, the more my life is filled with light and hope.

Bleseed be the soldiers of our faith that uphold a resilence to orthodoxy and seek to form a world around our Lord!!

Blessed Be!!
 
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I greately admires the Jesuit history - what I know of it! ("The Mission" was great!) And I follow the Spiritual Exercises by Ignatius of Loyola...
 
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Febe said:
I greately admires the Jesuit history - what I know of it! ("The Mission" was great!) And I follow the Spiritual Exercises by Ignatius of Loyola...

bless you Febe!! The movie (fraught with inaccuracies- historical) remains my most favorite movie ever!! I converted in 1986!...It is the essence of the Jesuits- descipline...tolerance!!!
 
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Protinus said:
bless you Febe!! The movie (fraught with inaccuracies- historical) remains my most favorite movie ever!! I converted in 1986!...It is the essence of the Jesuits- descipline...tolerance!!!

I rented this not long ago and watched it during Lent. (my third time). What an excellent movie and performances by Robert De Niro and Jeremy Irons. It never fails to move me to tears.
 
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That was very intersting Tonks. My exboyfriend goes to a Jesuit college out in PA, so reading the history of them was very interesting. Also, I thought it was very nice to see that they take the fourth vow which I'm surprised to hear that other priests do not.
 
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