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It appears Trump is offically under investigation for obstruction

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I wasn't going to post this because I know how the forum feels in general about "anonymous sources". Then I saw the response from his lawyer saying the leak of the info was outrageous and illegal which basically confirms this is true. Appears to be two investigations: One from the Mueller special counsel and one from the senate judiciary.


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Five people briefed on the requests, speaking on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the matter publicly, said that Daniel Coats, the current director of national intelligence, Mike Rogers, head of the National Security Agency, and Rogers’s recently departed deputy, Richard Ledgett, agreed to be interviewed by Mueller’s investigators as early as this week. The investigation has been cloaked in secrecy, and it is unclear how many others have been questioned by the FBI.

The NSA said in a statement that it will “fully cooperate with the special counsel” and declined to comment further. The office of the director of national intelligence and Ledgett declined to comment.

The White House now refers all questions about the Russia investigation to Trump’s personal attorney, Marc Kasowitz.

“The FBI leak of information regarding the president is outrageous, inexcusable and illegal,” said Mark Corallo, a spokesman for Kasowitz.

The officials said Coats, Rogers and Ledgett would appear voluntarily, though it remains unclear whether they will describe in full their conversations with Trump and other top officials or will be directed by the White House to invoke executive privilege. It is doubtful that the White House could ultimately use executive privilege to try to block them from speaking to Mueller’s investigators. Experts point out that the Supreme Court ruled during the Watergate scandal that officials cannot use privilege to withhold evidence in criminal prosecutions.

The obstruction-of-justice investigation of the president began days after Comey was fired on May 9, according to people familiar with the matter. Mueller’s office has taken up that work, and the preliminary interviews scheduled with intelligence officials indicate that his team is actively pursuing potential witnesses inside and outside the government.

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Special counsel is investigating Trump for possible obstruction of justice, officials say



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WASHINGTON—The Senate Judiciary Committee plans to open an investigation into the circumstances surrounding President Donald Trump’s removal of James Comey as FBI director, a probe that could examine the thorny question of whether Mr. Trump improperly interfered in a continuing investigation by doing so.

“The Judiciary Committee has an obligation to fully investigate any alleged improper partisan interference in law enforcement investigations,” said Sen. Chuck Grassley, an Iowa Republican and committee chairman, said in a letter released Wednesday. “It is my view that fully investigating the facts, circumstances, and rationale for Mr. Comey’s removal will provide us the opportunity to do that on a cooperative, bipartisan basis.

“The American people deserve a full accounting of attempts to meddle in both our democratic processes and the impartial administration of justice,” Mr. Grassley said.

Mr. Comey was removed from his position last month by Mr. Trump. In testimony before the Senate Intelligence Committee earlier this month, Mr. Comey said he had felt directed by the president to drop an investigation into former national security adviser Mike Flynn. Mr. Trump denies he gave such instructions.

The White House initially said Mr. Comey was removed for performance reasons, but Mr. Trump later suggested he was dismissed in part over the continuing Russia investigation.

Mr. Grassley’s letter came in response to a push from Dianne Feinstein, the top Democrat on the Judiciary Committee. Ms. Feinstein has asked for Judiciary to conduct its own probe in addition to the other investigations unfolding on Capitol Hill. The Judiciary Committee has jurisdiction over federal law enforcement, including the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

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Senate Panel to Probe Donald Trump’s Firing of Ex-FBI Director James Comey
 

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This will protect Mueller against threats of firing, certainly. If Trump is under investigation for obstruction of justice, firing Mueller will just about seal the deal.

I am glad Mueller's investigation is bearing fruit and uncovering the truth wherever it may lead.
 
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Then I saw the response from his lawyer saying the leak of the info was outrageous and illegal which basically confirms this is true.
Just in general, I don't know why they haven't realized that you can't simultaneously say "This is 100% false" and complain that someone leaked it. You can't claim that you know for sure that it's not a real leak while also whining about it being a real leak.
 
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Exactly. You'd say it is a lie not a leak. They have been doing this the entire presidency though. They want to call stories fake news but prosecute the leakers. How can you prosecute someone for leaking a lie? Unless it's only a lie because they are deliberately feeding false info to people in the hopes that it leaks...
 
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Oh, good. I was afraid that the Democrats were never give up beating the dead Russia horse. Now they can waste half a year and untold tax payer money on this.

Let me tell you guys a little secret: even if they could prove that he was guilty of obstruction, which again, is going to be incredibly difficult, they don't prosecute sitting presidents. At most you will get a toothless impeachment and a slap on the wrist. Since he won't be removed from office, most Americans won't even realize that he was impeached.

But, it gets better. The Republicans will want payback, and so they will be investigating Lynch and Rice, and through them, aiming for Obama. Who is no longer President, and who Sessions DoJ may have the guts to prosecute.

I hope and pray Mueller is an honest man, and that he doesn't screw this up.
 
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Experts point out that the Supreme Court ruled during the Watergate scandal that officials cannot use privilege to withhold evidence in criminal prosecutions.
I think Nixon also wanted to use it to protect his aids and the SCOTUS ruled against it.
 
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But, it gets better. The Republicans will want payback, and so they will be investigating Lynch and Rice, and through them, aiming for Obama. Who is no longer President, and who Sessions DoJ may have the guts to prosecute.
So what. If there is enough evidence to start an investigation then they should get after it.
I don't know about you but I think our government officials need a rude awakening. No one should be above the law and they should be very careful when their power starts going to their head.
 
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Agreed. And let the sword fall wherever it may, in either party...
 
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No one should, but the... people... in Washington don't care about the law. What I worry about is that Mueller isn't as honest as we think or if he has a lapse in judgment. There are going to be people on both sides up there trying to carefully influence the investigation(s) in their sides favor. If both of the cult of personality poster boys end up on the wrong side of the law, it's going to be a dumpster fire of epic proportions.

I am not saying that everything should be swept under the rug. I'm saying that I can see about a dozen ways this just amplifies the tension and anger in the country. It's like knowing that you need a surgery, but worrying about possible complications or screw ups. You don't not have the surgery, but you are not exactly happy to have it either.
 
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It's like knowing that you need a surgery, but worrying about possible complications or screw ups. You don't not have the surgery, but you are not exactly happy to have it either.
Or like some medical treatment you know you have to have or die, but you aren't happy about the side effects.
 
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The investigating committees and Mueller would be deemed incompetent if they were not investigating obstruction-of-justice after the firing of the FBI Director. The Post story merely confirms the obvious...
 
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What he said!
 
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I think the fears about the direction of the investigation are almost moot...

In ANY endeavour that humans undertake, let alone the processes of meting out justice, there is the propensity for error or misjudgement. So, do we sit on our hands and never undertake those challenges..?

No, of course not. We hope that the people in charge are skilled and have integrity in their approach and we give them the freedom to perform their task...
 
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Oh, good. I was afraid that the Democrats were never give up beating the dead Russia horse.
Do you mean all of our intelligence agencies, the Justice Department, the House Oversight Committee, and the House Intelligence Committee?

Exactly how much control would Republicans need to have in our federal government before you would stop dismissing everything as those dern Democrats causing trouble?
 
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