Is This The New Normal?

Pommer said:

The Overton window done did shift a ways to the Right, 2004’s Centrist is 2025’s “radical leftist”.

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The shift has been from more centrist to more radicalism and further left. Its undeniable. And we see that playing out in real time in New York with Mamdani. We'll see if Democrats wake up in time.

Did you see where he thought police shouldn't be involved in domestic abuse cases?

NxNW said:

Love the way they've been forthcoming with the Epstein files!

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Yeah, I hate that. So do a lot of other conservatives.

Pommer said:

The Overton window done did shift a ways to the Right, 2004’s Centrist is 2025’s “radical leftist”.

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The thing is, there are two Overton Windoes--one for social liberals/conservatives and another for economic liberals/conservatives. There is consederl overlap, of course, but they are not the same and ought to be considered separately.

rjs330 said:

The shift has been from more centrist to more radicalism and further left. Its undeniable. And we see that playing out in real time in New York with Mamdani. We'll see if Democrats wake up in time.

Did you see where he thought police shouldn't be involved in domestic abuse cases?

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Not without special training, anyway. Basically it's a good idea.

BCP1928 said:

Not without special training, anyway. Basically it's a good idea.

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Its a terrible idea. The police in every state have specialized training now. Its not 70s anymore.

Domestic violence scenarios are some of the worst things you can respond to. They are frought with danger. You have to have specialized training to deal with them and determine what occurred and who needs to get arrested. Social workers would have no clue and would have no ability to arrest anyone.

It doesn't appear you have any idea what you are talking about. And neither does Mamdani. Unless he doesn't see them as any big deal. I wonder why.

rjs330 said:

Its a terrible idea. The police in every state have specialized training now. Its not 70s anymore.

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OK, sure.

rjs330 said:

Domestic violence scenarios are some of the worst things you can respond to. They are frought with danger. You have to have specialized training to deal with them and determine what occurred and who needs to get arrested. Social workers would have no clue and would have no ability to arrest anyone.

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Why not? Do you think a person with that kind of training cannot become a sworn officer?

rjs330 said:

It doesn't appear you have any idea what you are talking about. And neither does Mamdani. Unless he doesn't see them as any big deal. I wonder why.

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BCP1928 said:

Why not? Do you think a person with that kind of training cannot become a sworn officer?

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Sure a socual worker could be a sworn officer, but then they would be a police officer. Ive worked with a LOT of social workers over 40 years. Not one of them was interested in becoming a police officer. What I heard from them most often was they couldn't do what police do. They could deal with what police had to deal with.

They have zero training or education on how to deal with people in immediate crisis and in a violent state. Or in dealing with people who are intoxicated, or on drugs to the point where there is no reasoning with them.

In our community we have a mental health team who responds to people who are in mental health crisis. We dont have enough of them and dont have enough who are interested in doing that work. But they don't respond to people who are armed with a weapon, nor acting violent or on drugs or highly intoxicated. You know who they want to respond? The police.

rjs330 said:

The shift has been from more centrist to more radicalism and further left. Its undeniable. And we see that playing out in real time in New York with Mamdani. We'll see if Democrats wake up in time.

Did you see where he thought police shouldn't be involved in domestic abuse cases?

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I’m not a citizen of New York (City nor State), and don’t concern myself with their local politics.