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In essense symbols only ever mean what the person using them intends. Did Sister White intend for her grave stone to show that she worshipped Satan? Or was is to just mark the spot of her burial? I think by looking at the life she led and the things she wrote point us to the latter.
Alright... let us admit for a while that she didnt know about that stone, and God didnt reveal the meaning to her...
OK, BUT!!!!
Is it satanic in meaning now??
Why not destroy it??
and what are the other obelisks doing (check my second link) why not remove them??
I really have problems with this statement. So you would have someone deface the grave of someone else just because others may perceive the stone laid upon it could represent evil? Sorry but I find that to be very disrespectful no matter whose grave you are talking about. Maybe in your attempt to expose SDA "evil" you have lost sight of common decensy. Would you take it upon yourself to remove or change the burial site of your loved one because you could find fault in their choice of headstones? I doubt it, and the mere mention of it would probably find feelings of anger rising up within you. Would that not offend you?
But lets not stop at just SDA's, lets go to all the other denominations and get rid of any headstones in the shape of obelisks, angels, crosses, or fish. Because obviously, all those people must be Satanists since they chose phallic, idolatrous, or pagan symbolism for their resting stones. Get the point? This is such a rediculous conversation that people will go to trying to put a spin on their hidden agenda. Its ok to say that we should change the headstone of Ellen White or other SDAs, but once we point out that there are other christians who bear those same things on there graves, it all of a sudden makes no difference.
Now that my rant is over, someone else brought up condemning Easter or Christmas. I don't have a problem if a Christian wants to celebrate those days. My problem comes when Christians knowingly make Christ an afterthought and take a backseat to the secular events that surround the day. If one wants to observe Easter as a day for remembering that Christ died for our sins and was resurrected as our promise then thats great. But when they fill baskets with eggs and tell lies about an Easter bunnies, I question what any of that has to do with Christ. Or when Santa, Christmas trees, and presents become the main reason for Christmas observance. What lessons do we promote to our children when we include these things in our walks with Christ? That yes Jesus is special, but all these other things are more fun and much more important to those particular days. Then we wonder why so many fall away from God and get sucked up into the world. Now before any say "well thats just SDA thoughts" I challenge you to type in your search engine and do some research. We are not the only denomination that sees it the same way. Most Protestant denominations have information out their proclaiming the same things. My actual information into the history of these holidays comes not from SDA but from secular sources. So maybe then we can put away the vendetta against those SDAs (or any other Christian for that matter) who advocate actually making Christ the center of the day and not the secular world.
Are the Masons really that bad? I mean if both Ellen White and her husband are both burried under masonic symbols....
....And Ellen White rubbed shoulders with Masons her whole life and were within the SDA church govt.
....What's the big deal?
I had watched a video a while back on youtube about how Masons were a satanic org & anything associated with them...
...Was being directed by the devil.
I noticed that picture I posted with Ellen White sitting in the middle of a bunch of masons...
...And theough HERE WE GO! Gitty up!
In reality however I have not seen anything from Prot land showing the Masons to be evil and satanic.....
...As a Catholic I'm not supposed to join them however.
Hmmm, let me see... a group of men, gathering together in a secret society, swearing blood oaths of fidelity, learning and honouring esoteric, occultic knowledge of Egyptian and Babylonian origin and according to one of their great founding members, Albert pike, Luciferian in nature for those in the highest degrees...
... I can't see why God would have a problem with that, can you??
...Catholics are not to join because the Mason stated purpose is to "destroy the Catholic Church".
Are the Masons really that bad? I mean if both Ellen White and her husband are both burried under masonic symbols....
....And Ellen White rubbed shoulders with Masons her whole life and were within the SDA church govt.
....What's the big deal?
I had watched a video a while back on youtube about how Masons were a satanic org & anything associated with them...
...Was being directed by the devil.
I noticed that picture I posted with Ellen White sitting in the middle of a bunch of masons...
...And theough HERE WE GO! Gitty up!
In reality however I have not seen anything from Prot land showing the Masons to be evil and satanic.....
...As a Catholic I'm not supposed to join them however.
thanks to ECR I learned about the following site
poGm
brwosing through it I read about the following
Baal worship and Steeples
it help me realize that there are some adventists who actually 'believe' the obelisk to be satanic, (I wouldnt have expected that)
now that brings me back to an old topic
the WHITE OBELISK
The White Obelisk
what do you think about it in the context of satanism/masonry...???
... and if you say they didnt know it back in the day and people used to set up obelisk in general on graveyards... well since God didnt show her/warn her in vision about it, then it might not really be satanic or whatever...
curious about what you have to say about it!
2 Kings 10:26They brought out the pillars or obelisks of the house of Baal and burned them.
The obelisk is also a phallic symbol.
EGW was buried under an obelisk, but she asked for it before her death?
2 Kings 10:26They brought out the pillars or obelisks of the house of Baal and burned them.
The obelisk is also a phallic symbol.
EGW was buried under an obelisk, but she asked for it before her death?
I've heard it said that Masons do those sort of things but only from people who don't like the masons...
...Catholics are not to join because the Mason stated purpose is to "destroy the Catholic Church".
well, as a matter of fact the obelisk was set up at her husbands burial, so she actually looked at it all the time she visited her husbands grave...
That's the wrong path to go down...
If you question her prophetic gifts, you should scrutinize her writings against the bible. To sift someone's personal life as wheat is what Satan does because you can always find fault to accuse.
My church has a steeple. If I own the church or were to build it, I wouldn't have it. But I don't. On the other hand, the church has much larger or more important/urgent spiritual issues than having a steeple. Having an obelisk/steeple might signal that the church is under some esoteric influence, but I'm secure enough to know the obelisk is not the cause of it.
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