Is the Book of Enoch true?

Gentle Lamb · Aug 19, 2015

That's nonsense, the KJV is simply a translation and there are many more that are plenty easy to understand. Pray for guidance from the Holy Spirit and let Him lead you as to what you should read. The Word of God is eternal and is greater than what is contained in the Bible as it was through his Word that He created all that we see, thus His Word is all around us. If you feel led to read something, then do so, if not, then don't. Let the Holy Spirit be your guide, not man.

Gentle Lamb · Aug 19, 2015

Superhero Sam said:
A guy at my church says it's true, but I doubt it is divinely inspired because it makes many far fetched claims. It was also rejected by the early church, similar to the gnostic gospels (which came out in medieval times-after the New Testament was finished-and thus were added after Revelation and couldn't have been true). I've done research on this, and its hard to come to a conclusion.

This post might interest you:

http://www.christianforums.com/threads/why-not-the-apocrypha.7895984/

ron4shua · Sep 17, 2015

Old Testament[edit] Of these books, Tobit, Judith, 1 and 2 Maccabees, Wisdom, Sirach, Baruch, parts of Esther and parts of Daniel are deuterocanonical, and are usually not found in the Protestant Bible, but are found in the Bibles of Eastern Christianity.
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Are all these books " Elohim inspired " ? If you deem them so , maybe you should hop out of your Protestant pew and change churches . I've read them ALL twice and many thrice . Own a copy of the one in question and many many more . The works of Titus Flavius Josephus , the same , I quit when I concluded it has the authorship of at the least three pronounced and uniquely different styles .

Hallelu-YAH .

Handmaid for Jesus · Sep 18, 2015

I have read the other books, including Enoch. I consider them histories and read them as such. I think it is important to find out what was going on back then.Frankly I have had a lot of questions answered that I had about the Bible by reading them.

Gentle Lamb · Sep 18, 2015

Handmaid for Jesus said:
I have read the other books, including Enoch. I consider them histories and read them as such. I think it is important to find out what was going on back then.Frankly I have had a lot of questions answered that I had about the Bible by reading them.

Same here. I've read the Book of Enoch, The First and Second Book of Adam and Eve, started reading the Book of Jubilees, and have read parts of the Book of Jasher. They may not be in the bible but that does not mean that they are not accurate or very close to accuracy. What we have in Genesis is a very very concise history of what happened in the beginning and the Book of Adam and Eve paint a deeper picture of our forefather & mother, which helped me to have compassion for the original couple instead of the dismissive disdain with which I have been taught to regard them with over the years.

mikedsjr · Sep 18, 2015

I've read it, but I don't believe this is the real book of Enoch Scripture references. It doesn't add up, iMO

Gentle Lamb · Sep 19, 2015

Apparently there's different versions of the Book of Enoch, but I read this one all the way through and it makes sense to me. http://reluctant-messenger.com/1enoch01-60.htm

Even if absolutely everything doesn't add up, there are still many things in there that make so much sense, like the stories about the fallen angels and their children. There is also an entire parable in the second book on that link about the whole history of humanity and it's pretty interesting and accurate.

ToBeLoved · Sep 19, 2015

I personally do not believe in reading these non-cannlical books. I read a few of the Nag Hamadi library years back.

Who were they written by? Did the writer have first hand knowledge and experiences or was it written after?

I learned my lesson in this area.

Handmaid for Jesus · Sep 19, 2015

ToBeLoved said:
I personally do not believe in reading these non-cannlical books. I read a few of the Nag Hamadi library years back.

Who were they written by? Did the writer have first hand knowledge and experiences or was it written after?

I learned my lesson in this area.

What lesson did you learn? I don't see how reading these books could any more harmful than reading a novel. If you read them as you would any other history book and not as scripture then it is only knowledge .

ToBeLoved · Sep 19, 2015

Handmaid for Jesus said:
What lesson did you learn? I don't see how reading these books could any more harmful than reading a novel. If you read them as you would any other history book and not as scripture then it is only knowledge .

Well, when you read a book that has to do with the Bible and adds more to ceratain stories and people, it is hard to read the actual Bible without that knowledge sitting there behind it.

For instance, I believe Enoch was Noah's grandfather or father. So, IMHO reading Enoch would add somethings to the story of Noah and to the context of what the world was like in those days. Since 'in the days of Noah' is used to describe a very pivotal time in Christain history, a time where God saw so much evil in the world that he wiped out most of humanity with the flood, I don't believe that you or I can read that book (which is not part of the Bible) and have it change to some degree the way you understand the actual Bible.

So, I don't read them because they are not the Word of God, which is what the books of the Bible are.

Handmaid for Jesus · Sep 19, 2015

ToBeLoved said:
Well, when you read a book that has to do with the Bible and adds more to ceratain stories and people, it is hard to read the actual Bible without that knowledge sitting there behind it.

For instance, I believe Enoch was Noah's grandfather or father. So, IMHO reading Enoch would add somethings to the story of Noah and to the context of what the world was like in those days. Since 'in the days of Noah' is used to describe a very pivotal time in Christain history, a time where God saw so much evil in the world that he wiped out most of humanity with the flood, I don't believe that you or I can read that book (which is not part of the Bible) and have it change to some degree the way you understand the actual Bible.

So, I don't read them because they are not the Word of God, which is what the books of the Bible are.

The whole purpose of reading history is to understand the past. Don't you think we need to have an idea of what the days of Noah were like from a historical point of view? The Bible is very vague about those days. But the Book of Enoch colors in (so to speak) and fleshes out the culture, the people,and, the landscape for a more comprehensive understanding of why our Father decided to destroy every living thing upon the face of the Earth in the flood.

thesunisout · Sep 20, 2015

There are more than a few out there who are looking outside the bible for answers, but I'm not one of them

Gentle Lamb · Sep 20, 2015

Listen everyone, God works with you on whatever level you are at. If you are comfortable reading extra-biblical texts - such as the Book of Enoch, newspapers, textbooks, internet articles etc. then He will show you revelations through those AS WELL AS THE BIBLE. If you are not comfortable reading extra-biblical texts, then He will show you revelations through the Bible. Point blank. God understands exactly where you are coming from. Point blank. Do whatever you want but don't discourage other people from searching into sources that God has placed on their hearts.

thesunisout · Sep 20, 2015

Gentle Lamb said:
Listen everyone, God works with you on whatever level you are at. If you are comfortable reading extra-biblical texts - such as the Book of Enoch, newspapers, textbooks, internet articles etc. then He will show you revelations through those AS WELL AS THE BIBLE. If you are not comfortable reading extra-biblical texts, then He will show you revelations through the Bible. Point blank. God understands exactly where you are coming from. Point blank. Do whatever you want but don't discourage other people from searching into sources that God has placed on their hearts.

God doesn't place it on the hearts of His people to read something purporting to be divinely inspired, which isn't. This is why the scripture warns about false teachers and false prophets. Paul said that if anybody touches anything other than what he taught, another Jesus that he did not teach, let them be eternally condemned. This isn't about what "level" you are on, it is about following to clear teaching of Scripture to have discernment and reject all false teaching.

ToBeLoved · Sep 20, 2015

Handmaid for Jesus said:
The whole purpose of reading history is to understand the past. Don't you think we need to have an idea of what the days of Noah were like from a historical point of view? The Bible is very vague about those days. But the Book of Enoch colors in (so to speak) and fleshes out the culture, the people,and, the landscape for a more comprehensive understanding of why our Father decided to destroy every living thing upon the face of the Earth in the flood.

No, not really. The Word tells us what those days were like. I don't mix non-cannonized books of the Bible with the Bible. Enoch is definately another take on the times.

ToBeLoved · Sep 20, 2015

Gentle Lamb said:
Listen everyone, God works with you on whatever level you are at. If you are comfortable reading extra-biblical texts - such as the Book of Enoch, newspapers, textbooks, internet articles etc. then He will show you revelations through those AS WELL AS THE BIBLE. If you are not comfortable reading extra-biblical texts, then He will show you revelations through the Bible. Point blank. God understands exactly where you are coming from. Point blank. Do whatever you want but don't discourage other people from searching into sources that God has placed on their hearts.

The Word tells us to let no one 'add' to or 'take away' from what has been written in the Bible. I consider the reading of these other books to be adding to biblical history as Enoch is mentioned in the Bible, but that book is not included in the Bible, so there is a reason for that.

mikedsjr · Sep 20, 2015

Without historical material, there would be less known about Scriptures understanding. V There is adding and subtracting done in many churches across the world on Sunday's. We shouldn't fear historical books, but the book of Enoch, from my past experience, conflicts with Scripture.

ToBeLoved · Sep 20, 2015

mikedsjr said:
Without historical material, there would be less known about Scriptures understanding. V There is adding and subtracting done in many churches across the world on Sunday's. We shouldn't fear historical books, but the book of Enoch, from my past experience, conflicts with Scripture.

To be clear, I am not against historical books at all. I am against the extra-biblical books (non-orthodox Christian texts). Such as the ones found in Nag Hamdi (I know I spelled that wrong)

Xalith · Sep 20, 2015

ToBeLoved said:
No, not really. The Word tells us what those days were like. I don't mix non-cannonized books of the Bible with the Bible. Enoch is definately another take on the times.

And yet, given peoples' responses in that thread about Nephilim awhile back, it seems that people don't seem to truly understand what The Word actually, really says about the Days of Noah and why God flooded the world.

But then, part of that is partly because of things being mis-translated, and people grossly misunderstanding what was going on at the time.

A good teacher by the name of Dr. Chuck Missler said that "If God Flooded the world purely because of sin, you better get your life jackets out." I happen to agree with him, based on all the evidence he brought forth in one of his sermons.

Of course, he said that jokingly (God promised He would never again flood the world), but his point still stands.

Handmaid for Jesus · Sep 21, 2015

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I'd say its a part of the Gnostic stuff thrown in to pervert scripture.

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