Is it a sin to use a crack in order to use my software?

Blade · Jul 8, 2022

HAHA.. praise GOD glory to JESUS. Its not what others think. Now I have used a crack for software that I own. That is not stealing. Stealing would be downloading music never pay for it..stealing would be downloading the software you never paid for and using a crack. We all do something. We see that speed sign and do we obey all mans laws? Do we fully stop at a stop sign? Blah blah blah I have things that you can't activate any more they are gone. I've used a crack.

RDKirk · Jul 8, 2022

Blade said:
HAHA.. praise GOD glory to JESUS. Its not what others think. Now I have used a crack for software that I own. That is not stealing. Stealing would be downloading music never pay for it..stealing would be downloading the software you never paid for and using a crack. We all do something. We see that speed sign and do we obey all mans laws? Do we fully stop at a stop sign? Blah blah blah I have things that you can't activate any more they are gone. I've used a crack.

"We all do something."

Is that your rationale? Are you sure you want to run with that rationale in a discussion about sin?

returntosender · Jul 8, 2022

notaperfectchristian said:
well I definetley can't do that, I used all my money to buy it from ebay and I bought the cs3 so I wouldn't have to use the new photoshop that requires a subscription. I can't pay for anything else at the moment. It seems like I'll have to uninstall it because it's a sin trying to use it. I guess I'll have to use gimp instead for now. There's no regular way to activate photoshop cs3 in 2022 even though I bought the legal version with actual money. I feel so ripped off.

eBay has a money back guarantee. Seems to me they are saying it wasn't possible for them to do it but that's not to say you couldn't figure out how to. In my opinion you are okay. They didn't say under penalty of law did they? I think you should file a case with eBay as the seller sold an expired product.

returntosender · Jul 8, 2022

RDKirk said:
"We all do something."

Is that your rationale? Are you sure you want to run with that rationale in a discussion about sin?

It's not as though they set out to cheat. If it was their goal to crack codes then yes it is a sin. We as Christians don't PRACTICE sin. That's the key.

Carl Emerson · Jul 8, 2022

notaperfectchristian said:
I agree that it is probably theft but I did purchase it legally from ebay, I didn't pirate the software itself but I used a crack to overide the actual activation to use it in 2022, I'm just trying to use what I paid for because I feel ripped off altogether I paid 90 dollars for it. But if I am doing something illegal I don't want to be sinning.

If you buy a car you own it.

You can then modify it without any legal breach.

Once you own it the seller has no legal say in what you do with it...

You have no further contract with the seller.

Rest easy.

Carl Emerson · Jul 8, 2022

Is there a way to get an old copy of AutoCad without breaking any rules ???

RDKirk · Jul 8, 2022

Carl Emerson said:
If you buy a car you own it.

You can then modify it without any legal breach.

Once you own it the seller has no legal say in what you do with it...

You have no further contract with the seller.

Rest easy.

But if your modifications break it, the manufacturer has no responsibility for it, either.

And if you didn't purchase it under the manufacturer's terms, the manufacturer has no responsibility for it.

If you buy a car from a second party that the manufacturer had discontinued decades ago, the manufacturer has no responsibility to continue making parts for it.

Carl Emerson · Jul 8, 2022

RDKirk said:
But if your modifications break it, the manufacturer has no responsibility for it, either.

And if you didn't purchase it under the manufacturer's terms, the manufacturer has no responsibility for it.

If you buy a car from a second party that the manufacturer had discontinued decades ago, the manufacturer has no responsibility to continue making parts for it.

I don't think under the circumstances described that in this case the issues you raise are critical.

RDKirk · Jul 8, 2022

Carl Emerson said:
I don't think under the circumstances described that in this case the issues you raise are critical.

They all are. The OP bought long-outdated software from an unauthorized dealer, thus the manufacturer will not support it.

Carl Emerson · Jul 8, 2022

RDKirk said:
They all are. The OP bought long-outdated software from an unauthorized dealer, thus the manufacturer will not support it.

I am assuming he doesn't require that support - hopefully he will clarify...

notaperfectchristian · Jul 8, 2022

RDKirk said:
They all are. The OP bought long-outdated software from an unauthorized dealer, thus the manufacturer will not support it.

I wish I had known before I bought it but oh well, lesson learnt I guess. I permanatley erased the software so I can't use it anymore

SkyWriting · Jul 9, 2022

notaperfectchristian said:
Hello I'm a 19 year old artist and I have bought many art softwares from ebay last year one of which was photoshop cs3, I did in fact buy it legally for 85 ish dollars and it installed but the program needs to activate, after buying it I learned that it can't be activated as of 2017. What I did which is what makes me think I sinned as, I downloaded a crack file and put it inside my photoshop cs3 files and overwrote them and now it works without activation but I am worried that this is a sin because it isn't supposed to activate as of 2017. I'm worried that I'm stealing and that I'll go to hell for this please help me out.

Edit: For clarification i have the original serial number, box and everything and my verison of cs3 is real and legit not fake at all and I got it by legal means and so did the seller the software isn't pirated or cracked. I just can't activate it unless I override the program which makes me feel kind of strange. I got it from ebay for $90 dollars and have the box and everything but Cs3 and Cs2 activation servers were taken down in 2017 so i mean idk if its wrong for me to still use the software I bought legally and just override the activation because the servers are down

Edit #2: Hello everyone I ended up unistalling and permanatley erasing the software for my computer so I won't be able to ever use it again as the files are permanatley destroyed. Thanks for all the advice I feel this is the right thing to do, as of right now I'm going to be using gimp and an old copy of photoshop elements I have until I can get some better software that can be activated.

If you bought software, and it was incompatible, then you are blameless to get it working again. Using outdated software is not a sin. It's hard to find any current software that does not require annual fees.

partinobodycular · Jul 9, 2022

Has anyone considered the fact that the company must have been aware that there were still copies of their software available for purchase in the marketplace, and that they were effectively rendering that software worthless by making it impossible to activate. Weren't they effectively defrauding the public by selling a product that they themselves had rendered useless?

Kylie · Jul 11, 2022

notaperfectchristian said:
Hello I'm a 19 year old artist and I have bought many art softwares from ebay last year one of which was photoshop cs3, I did in fact buy it legally for 85 ish dollars and it installed but the program needs to activate, after buying it I learned that it can't be activated as of 2017. What I did which is what makes me think I sinned as, I downloaded a crack file and put it inside my photoshop cs3 files and overwrote them and now it works without activation but I am worried that this is a sin because it isn't supposed to activate as of 2017. I'm worried that I'm stealing and that I'll go to hell for this please help me out.

Edit: For clarification i have the original serial number, box and everything and my verison of cs3 is real and legit not fake at all and I got it by legal means and so did the seller the software isn't pirated or cracked. I just can't activate it unless I override the program which makes me feel kind of strange. I got it from ebay for $90 dollars and have the box and everything but Cs3 and Cs2 activation servers were taken down in 2017 so i mean idk if its wrong for me to still use the software I bought legally and just override the activation because the servers are down

Edit #2: Hello everyone I ended up unistalling and permanatley erasing the software for my computer so I won't be able to ever use it again as the files are permanatley destroyed. Thanks for all the advice I feel this is the right thing to do, as of right now I'm going to be using gimp and an old copy of photoshop elements I have until I can get some better software that can be activated.

I don't know your financial situation, but the latest version of Photoshop CC is a subscription and actually not that much per month. It's all legal, plus you get the latest version of Photoshop with some really amazing features.

Kylie · Jul 11, 2022

partinobodycular said:
Has anyone considered the fact that the company must have been aware that there were still copies of their software available for purchase in the marketplace, and that they were effectively rendering that software worthless by making it impossible to activate. Weren't they effectively defrauding the public by selling a product that they themselves had rendered useless?

I don't think so. Just because people are still selling it between themselves doesn't mean they are obligated to support it. And they themselves were not selling the software in question.

RDKirk · Jul 11, 2022

partinobodycular said:
Has anyone considered the fact that the company must have been aware that there were still copies of their software available for purchase in the marketplace, and that they were effectively rendering that software worthless by making it impossible to activate. Weren't they effectively defrauding the public by selling a product that they themselves had rendered useless?

No, because Adobe didn't sell it. That software had long, long before already been pulled from their authorized channels. It's not their fault if someone purchases an item from an unauthorized seller. They aren't obligated to service that.

People who had purchased the software from an authorized seller, and had registered it with Adobe, can still get it activated (for instance, if they move it to a new computer) through customer service.

Acquiring intellectual property by unauthorized means is an infringement of federal--and even international--copyright law. Romans 13 applies for Christians.

Presbyterian Continuist · Jul 12, 2022

notaperfectchristian said:
Hello I'm a 19 year old artist and I have bought many art softwares from ebay last year one of which was photoshop cs3, I did in fact buy it legally for 85 ish dollars and it installed but the program needs to activate, after buying it I learned that it can't be activated as of 2017. What I did which is what makes me think I sinned as, I downloaded a crack file and put it inside my photoshop cs3 files and overwrote them and now it works without activation but I am worried that this is a sin because it isn't supposed to activate as of 2017. I'm worried that I'm stealing and that I'll go to hell for this please help me out.

Edit: For clarification i have the original serial number, box and everything and my verison of cs3 is real and legit not fake at all and I got it by legal means and so did the seller the software isn't pirated or cracked. I just can't activate it unless I override the program which makes me feel kind of strange. I got it from ebay for $90 dollars and have the box and everything but Cs3 and Cs2 activation servers were taken down in 2017 so i mean idk if its wrong for me to still use the software I bought legally and just override the activation because the servers are down

Edit #2: Hello everyone I ended up unistalling and permanatley erasing the software for my computer so I won't be able to ever use it again as the files are permanatley destroyed. Thanks for all the advice I feel this is the right thing to do, as of right now I'm going to be using gimp and an old copy of photoshop elements I have until I can get some better software that can be activated.

I don't believe that it is theft. You bought the software in good faith believing you could activate it. It was not your problem that you couldn't. You found a program that was a workaround so you could use your software. If you had bought a pirated copy and then used the workaround I would have called it theft. But in your case I don't believe it was. The only other thought I had was whether it was one of those programs like Norton antivirus that you had to pay a subscription each year to keep it activated. But it doesn't appear that it is. I see that others have called it theft, but you did buy a kosher copy and used a workaround to circumvent the manufacturer site erasing the ability to activate it. In effect, it is the manufacturer stealing the purchase price of your software from you. If you have the original DVD, then reinstall it, use the workaround and confidently use the software without any sense of condemnation.

If I bought a used motor vehicle and found it didn't have an ignition key to start it, and went to a locksmith to have one made, is that stealing the car? What's the difference between that and having legitimately purchased software without a verification key and going and getting one that enables it to start up? None.

Presbyterian Continuist · Jul 12, 2022

High Fidelity said:
Yes that’s theft.

If you bought a house and found that it had no door keys to allow you to get inside, and you went to a locksmith to have a set made, would you call that theft?

There is a world of difference between that and getting a set of keys made for your next door neighbor's house to use them to get in and steal his stuff. Now, that's theft!

Presbyterian Continuist · Jul 12, 2022

RDKirk said:
Were you unaware that "crack" software is, by definition, stolen intellectual property being sold illegally? It's like buying a stolen watch from a guy on the street.

Beyond participating in the sin of the thief, the secular reason to avoid crack software is that you're dealing with someone who is at once very clever and immoral...so you don't know what possible malware has been included in that package. And, yes, the eBay seller ripped you off, just as he ripped off Adobe...because he's a thief.

Is it a sin? Apparently the Holy Spirit inside of you is telling you so.

Are you going to hell? Not if you repent.

But he bought the software legitimately and has a genuine serial number issued by Adobe. It is not theft to get a workaround to enable activation so he can use the software he paid for. There is no comparison between that and buying a knock-off watch from a street vendor who may have got the watches after the fell off the back of a truck.

Presbyterian Continuist · Jul 12, 2022

notaperfectchristian said:
...Okay I am not explaining this right or something the product itself is not a crack. It is normal and legal. I used a crack file to stop the activation so I can use it in 2022. The software itself was legal and not pirated in anyway I downloaded an external file so it doesnt need to activate it. The guy sold me a regular version of the software that he used a long time ago. What I'm trying to explain is the guy bought the software when it was new normally and sold it to me on ebay. But it can't be used in 2022 unless you can activate it which you can't anymore unless you modify files. Thats all. So I didn't crack anything I modified some files of legal software that I bought legally in order to use it today because its old and adobe took down activation servers.

If I was in your position I would have done the same in a heartbeat and wouldn't feel that I was sinning at all.

Is it a sin to use a crack in order to use my software?

Veteran

Alien, Pilgrim, and Sojourner

EL ROI

EL ROI

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Alien, Pilgrim, and Sojourner

Well-Known Member

Alien, Pilgrim, and Sojourner

Well-Known Member

Member

The Librarian

Well-Known Member

Defeater of Illogic

Defeater of Illogic

Alien, Pilgrim, and Sojourner

Senior Veteran

Senior Veteran

Senior Veteran

Senior Veteran

Similar threads

Privacy & Transparency

Privacy & Transparency