random guy:
Well, science has cladistics
well thank you for the link but i won't accept an evolutionary model, as i do not think they are based in reality nor fact.
It might be because science put together a great system that works, and Creationists can't do the same, and for a very good reason. You can't classify life without using a nested hierarchy due to common descent
if you look at the creation account, you will see such classification is not acceptable. i will admit that to define further than i have i would be guilty of speculation.
we do know that God does not provide everything and that there are certain mysteries we still have to invesitgate to see if He will provide an answer for us. OR i just haven't found a good enough website or book that seriusly and honestly researches from a christian perspective.
I have yet to see a Creationist correctly disprove any science.
i guess that depends upon your perspective and definition of correctly. i have shown quite clearly that evlution is inferred or built on minimal evidence (lucy as an example) which denies any probability or possibility of being verified.
it is more about faith than evolutionists give credit (not saying evolution is a religion just that it takes a large amount of faith to accept it)
when we realize that science is from Satan, we really can't talk unless we're right next to each other, seeing how science gave us the internet and computers to chat on these forums
yes and the t.v. has been declared as one of the worst inventions as it splits too many families apart. not all is good that comes from science.
that is the point i have been trying to make. a lot of technology you claim is good, is actually very destructive to God's creation.
sure we use it as Paul says we are free to do a lot but not all things are expedient. though that does not give permission to sin or stop listening to God.
We think knowledge is good.
don't claim justification for following secular views by saying you are for knowledge. God commanded all His followers to get it but He also commanded not to follow the world. the one command does not over rule the other.
Lady:
Perhaps this is a commentary on the quality of Creationist work?
Not all. erwin lutzer is hailed as a great writer in evangelical circles but to me he is one of the most disappointing authors there can be.
he doesn't explore far enough nor provide many reasons why he makes his point and he often jumps to a salvation message in his chapters in lieu of more detailed investigative work which would satisfy readers as to why he is saying what he is saying.
i mentioned this criticism to an old pastor friend from my college days and he was upsetat the fact that i would dare criticize the man.
What we can't do is twist it into some kind of form that makes your theories look correct.
i am not the one doing the twisting, you are using the mystery to provide 'evidence' for an evolutionary model. i am stopping at the word 'categories' and calling for more research into the matter.
pplease do not accuse me of doing what you are doing.
perhaps the problem is with your theories?
not at all. i am not the one requiring millions of years to produce such groupings nor am i presenting such thinking which is unverifiable. you cannot back up what your saying without resortin to inferrence, conjecture, extrapolation, assumptions and so on.
i at least have the opportunity to see my categories with my own eyes.
The problem exists, as far as I can tell, in your interpretations. It would not exist if you accepted evolution
there is nothing wrong with the way i see scripture but this is a typical evolutionist thought which tries to justify their departure from God's word.
Science to disprove something well... as in a bit more substantial than shaking one's head and chanting "nope! Ain't so!"
that is not what i am doing and since i have 6 to 10,000 years of all species acting exactly like they were created to do, you are the ones doing the above.
what did someone say...150 years of scientific experiments. yet not one of those experiments produces results similar to the ones claimed by the adherents of the evolutionary theory.
as an example: i forget but isn't it that birds came from reptiles or vice versa? please produce the experiment that shows that part of the evolutionary tree in action.
i do not accept any other experiment where inferrences, conjecture or extrapolation are used. i want the actual event reproduced to verify it took place. keeping in mind the fact that no such event has been observed throughout human history.
So we can't talk until we all accept that you're right. What would the point of that be, exactly?
there is more than one meaning to the word 'talk'.