Baptism is not required for what? For a good summer trip??
Not required period.
Try it, as I already told you.
I guess you have never stayed in a tent. Guess what, they have no door, Americans Indians lived in tee pees for a very long time, no doors, no locks, they got by just fine.
Not a requirement for what? If you mean for Salvation, then I agree with you. And the Bible is clear about that.
Let it go.. you keep saying it is and it ain't. It is not required. It is a ritual there is nothing more to say.
The Bible interprets the Bible. I already quoted the passages about baptism many times. They never say that baptism is a bath. And they clearly say that baptism is a necessary part of Salvation.
I did not say it was a bath I said it was a ritual. Ritual does not = bath. Is your understanding that poor or are you just being intentionally difficult?
The Old Testament already existed. And Jesus clearly talked about the Scripture of the Old Testament and said that it is what God says. Then He promised to give us the New Testament books, and He said that this also will be the Word of the Spirit.
Yes the OT or at least the books that make it up did exist and yes he did quote from some of them. That however is not what you constantly claim. You have said over and over that Jesus said the bible is the word of God. He did not say this and you know it as well as I do.
And, N.B.: You don't know what "everybody" knows.
I think anyone here who can read knows it perfectly well you have repeatedly said that somethings says x when it actually says y.
Great. So where is the problem?
Apparently in your understanding.
Which is one way that it is used it is also used without the like qualifier to denote a similar thing but not often nowadays forever is used instead.
Well, the Bible says that hell is eternal, and not like eternal...
No it does not say that hell is eternal. SO me a verse where it actually says "Hell is eternal" Funny when I search the bible I find no match to the phrase hell is eternal, I find no match to eternal hell either. Conclusion the bible does not say this.
Who told you this? Anyway, I have already explained this in detail previously.
You explained in detail how a word which refers to a finite period of time becomes infinite when converted to an adjective form of the word. Hmm must have been in invisible script because it certianly wasn't visible.
It does, and I already explained this in detail. Just go learn some Greek. It will help you...
As I said Aidios does mean eternal but that is not the word they used. That in itself is very telling. Please spare me your remarks about learning Greek. You have no idea what I have learned and when I offered to give detailed explaination you have turned it down based on your predrawn conclusion that you already know the truth.
You are now judging the intents of those scholars. How do you know they did that? Is it because you don't want to believe in an eternal hell?
It has nothing to do with what I want. It has to do with the truth. There is no eternal hell and some people believe in eternal hell and they allow that belief to affect there perception which becomes tainted as a result.
I told you already what I am interested in. I don't need the imaginations of people who would invent anything in order to contradict the Word of God.
So I will take that as a confirmation that you are not interested in any information that contradicts your opinion as to what the bible is trying to tell you.
Yes. Surprised??
Well, as you can see, you are ignorant of some indo-european languages.
I do not speak many languages so I have no idea what kind of wierd concepts may exist in some of them. That however has nothing to do with Greek or English but some other un-named language. For all I know you made it up yourself.
That said powers could refer to armies in our language though that would not be high on the list of definitions and would be a poor choice of words if one were referring to armies.
The Bible never says that all will be saved. On the contrary, the Bible clearly says that all those who do not repent and believe the Gospel will be lost forever.
Really.. ? I started to type up a bunch of scripture from memory but then I figure why bother as you will likely deny them anyway. So here are just a few pointers from a page titeld 100 reasons to believe followed by the link to the full page.
1) Eph 1:11...........God works ALL after counsel of His will
2) Jn 8:29..............Jesus ALWAYS does which pleases His Father
3) I Tim 2:4..........God will have ALL to be saved
4) I Jn 4:14...........Jesus sent to be the Saviour of the world
5) Jn 4:34.............Jesus to do the will of God who sent Him
6) Jn 12:47...........Jesus came to save ALL
7) I Tim 2:6..........Jesus gave Himself a ransom for ALL
http://lighthouselibrary.com/read.php?sel=3233&searchfor=|100 reasons|&type=ARTICLE&what=keyword
Do you see now how the Bible interprets the Bible?
I know that you can interpret the bible with the bible. I do not believe that you are doing it correctly though. Your example which I have snipped for space is bolding certian words. Basically it is saying that many will enter into the gate of destruction, You seem to think this means that they can not be saved. Yet later on we see again in the writings of Paul where he speaks of turning someone over to satan for the destruction of the flesh so the spirit can be saved. So if we use the bible to interpret the bible we do not come away with destruction meaning one can not or will not be saved but we see that in at least one instance the reason for destruction is so the spirit can be saved.
John the baptist.
Anyway, you need to quote the Bible about all the meanings you gave to the fire.
Why? I though you were an expert on the bible? Are you saying that you are not familiar with these verses?
Yes, God is a consuming fire. Open the passage that says that, and you will see that the passage is talking about JUDGMENT.
Which is what I was talking about We are judged by fire [God]
But you still didn't quote any passage about the lake of fire.
Is it required that I quote passages about the lake of fire? I have given references to what the bible says. An expert such as you should know what I am referring to.
Is God a consuming fire? Does God save us? Read 1 Cor 3 [paraphrased from memory] the work of every man [that means all of us] shall be tried by fire, be it silver and gold or hay and stubble he will gain reward or suffer loss but he himself shall be saved as by fire.
Note EVERY MAN shall be tired and saved. Fire of course is not meant to be taken literally.
Yes. And where is your problem now? Why don't you accept that Salvation?
Why do you ask such a stupid question. Who says I do not accept salvation? I didn't say that, I didn't hint at it either. I think you just like to try and get under peoples skin. Perhaps it makes you feel good if you can make them angry enough to err and have need to repent?
To be clear what I reject is your opinion.
I see you did not answer the question. It would have answered yours if you understood it. To obey is good, gold means good. Satan did obey in at least some instance in the story of Job which means that there is at least a sliver of gold even in satan.
And who told you it does? Did you read the context? And did you let the Bible interpret that context?
What makes you think I need someone to tell me? I am capable of forming conclusions of my own you know. And yes I did let scripture interpret scripture and explained it to you already yet you do not see.
Peter was not a child of Satan.
Jesus referred to Peter as satan.
Yes, Satan obeyed God in the story of Job.
So satan did well in this case and in judgment God will remember this will he not?
Peter was saved because he didn't do well and admitted it. If someone does well, then he doesn't need to be saved.
Of course you just made that up didin't you?