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no. that's not how science works. the conclusion is there because of the evidence (150 years of research).
Explain the intelligence in the design of flightless birds that still have hollow bones, and flying mammals that have solid bones.
Yeh, Can't help you there Blayz. Doesn't make too much sense to me.
What other data is needed?Then again, I don't have all the relevant data either.
Yet when we say this, you say it is not enough.Because I cannot answer that doesn't mean it is not answerable.
Neither does anyone else. How often do we have to debunk your strawmen before you stop repeating them?I don't think selection is powerful enough to change one species in one family to another species of another family. ie; wolf to whale, reptile or dinosaur to bird.
Do you see it as a "hole in the ID theory"? Do you see how unfair it is for you to cherry pick some stuff we don't know and declare said stuff to be fundamental flaws/holes in the ToE?
What other data is needed?
Yet when we say this, you say it is not enough.
Neither does anyone else. How often do we have to debunk your strawmen before you stop repeating them?
Back on topic, It would appear that what you are saying is
"If it looks intelligently designed, it is"
"If we cannot perceive intelligence in the design, that's because the designer is so awesome and beyond us"
It's not a persuasive argument.
If you are just responding to these posts because you want to entertain yourself, then go ahead. Have fun. I know it's entertaining to prove people wrong sometimes especially creationists.
But please don't feed the ignorance anymore than you have to.
I'd really like to see them go away and make room for people with higher intellect or new ideas to debate.
I used to sit here and systematically debunk every single one of their claims only to see them completely ignored. A day later they would start a new thread with the SAME EXACT wrong material. It was beyond frustrating.
Explain the intelligence in the design of flightless birds that still have hollow bones, and flying mammals that have solid bones.
Dude, because you HAVN'T POSTED ANY EVIDENCE!YOu don't accept any evidence. Every time I post you just come back and say post some evidence. When I post failures of evolution you say post some evidence.
What questions?you don't answer any questions,
What failures?you don't cite any evidence supporting the failures brought up.
BECAUSE YOU STILL HAVN'T PROVIDED ANY EVIDENCE FOR ID YET!!!You just keep repeating yourself. YOu seem perfectly fine accepting the failures of your own believed hypothesis, why wanting more and more evidence for ID.
Neither is saying "I posted evidence, I posted evidence" when, in fact, you havn't. All you've done is post evidence AGAINST evolution, not FOR ID.Just saying show me, show me, is not helpful.
You can be as condescending as you like. We have heard no defense of gaping holes in evolution hypothesis, only condescention. Evolution science can't even figure out what a species is yet the whole hypothesis seems to hinge on it.
Evolution science doesn't know:
- what a species is
In some cases we see gradual change, in others we see stasis. Stasis is produced by Stabilizing Selection.[*]why the fossil record exhibits stasis instead of the predicted gradualism
Simple. You have gene A which performs function X. Either function X is no longer needed, or Gene A duplicates. Now you have a Gene A which is free to mutate to provide another possible function, such as function Y.[*]how co-option actually works
Not sure what you mean by this. The tree of life consists of all species on earth and their genetic relationships.[*]why a tree of life can't be defined
That is a very broad question, ill suited to evolutionary biology. Would you like to rephrase it?[*]where information came from
I assume you mean "arrange" themselves? By hydrogen bonding.[*]how base pairs orange themselves
Maybe it did not. This is an abiogenesis question, in any case.[*]how a 4 letter code originated all at once
Because when the phrase was orignally coined, no one knew what if any function Junk DNA had. We now know, some junk DNA does have a funtion, though there are some species which do without it.[*]why junk DNA has function
They aren't.[*]why a couple hundred original vestigial organs are down to a couple
[*]what came first proteins or DNA
They can.[*]why they can't speciate fruit flies
Nonsense. No fossil walks around... you have been watching too many movies like "Night at the Museum." If you are referring to "living fossils," these are extant species that look very much like extinct species (and are usually closely related), though they are not the same species. See again "Stabilizing Selection."[*]why 100 million year old fossils are walking around today unchanged
There is evidence for both.[*]why punctuated equilibrium is still around if there is so much evidence for gradualism
See Lenski's experiments. Much more than "two steps."[*]why biologists can't get beyond two steps of change after millions of generations of bacterial experiments.
This is how we learn and refine our theories.[*]why every year a new find rewrites the history of something or other
If you are respectful to others here, others will be respectful to you. You remind me of a man who beats his wife and apologizes after each beating. Then repeats his behavior again.I don't understand why the facts can't be argued without being disrespectful. It is hard to discuss things with someone who is just angry.
All of these are very well understood at this point in time. And it was the SM that got us here, not any ancient document. Science works. Every time. Always.Evidence for Intelligent Design is all around us! One would have to be pretty blind or full of bitterness not to see it. A flower, blade of grass, gravity, birth, changing seasons, evolution, the stars, universe, the atom, and as previously mentioned the Life Language of DNA.
What the...?Blackwater Babe why are you so bitter and angry towards God and His people?
Asking evidence of someone who makes a claim is not anger. You're projecting here.Blackwater Babe why are you so bitter and angry towards God and His people?
I believe that if you believe in something, it becomes like a self-fulfilling idea you trust in. Personally I don't think that creationism should be made into science. And yes i believe that God created the world in the manners he did in the bible. What is so great about the bible, is that we can read the bible the way it says not involving in meaningless disputes over it. Everything else will perish except for Gods word...
...Thats what i believe. I don't argue intelligent design because I believe you shouldn 't know God exist, You should BELIEVE he exist. Thus not making creation into science. I'll wait till the day the evolutionists will see a giant walk by the horizon, for their repentance
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