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Yes but the policy also says a president can be held accountable by the justice system as well. The Constitution is rather silent on the issue. So it's certainly not unconstitutional to hold the president accountable. Policy is not law and Mueller was not bound by that part of the policy.
Can a sitting U.S. president face criminal charges? - Reuters
He would have violated the “policy” of the DOJ/OLC and would have been dismissed for cause.Are you trying say that Mueller would have broken the law if he would have accused Trump.of a crime?
The Ethics in Government Act gave the Special Prosecutor the ability to disregard DoJ policies. https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/STATUTE-92/pdf/STATUTE-92-Pg1824.pdfWrong Starr had the same policy that Mueller had. This policy was in effect since the 70s. The fact is Starr elected not to adhere to that.
Please show in Murllers mandate where it stated he HAD to follow the policy. Please show in Starts mandate where he was told he didn't have to.
Mueller operated under authority given to him by Rod Rosenstein’s memo, “Special Counsel”.
Starr was operating under the now defunct “Special Prosecutor” law that lapsed at the turn of the century.
The Ethics in Government Act gave the Special Prosecutor the ability to disregard DoJ policies. https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/STATUTE-92/pdf/STATUTE-92-Pg1824.pdf
The regulations that Mueller was appointed under require him to follow DoJ policies. The most he can do is consult with the AG if he feels that following DoJ policies is not appropriate. https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/CFR-2016-title28-vol2/pdf/CFR-2016-title28-vol2-part600.pdf
(a) A Special Counsel shall comply
with the rules, regulations, procedures,
practices and policies of the Depart-
ment of Justice. He or she shall consult
with appropriate offices within the De-
partment for guidance with respect to
established practices, policies and pro-
cedures of the Department, including
ethics and security regulations and
procedures. Should the Special Counsel
conclude that the extraordinary cir-
cumstances of any particular decision
would render compliance with required
review and approval procedures by the
designated Departmental component
inappropriate, he or she may consult
directly with the Attorney General.
So Mueller could have decided there were extraordinary circumstances. Obstruction of Justice seems a pretty good circumstance dies it not? Did he consult with the AG in this matter? Did he consult with the appropriate offices?
There is nothing in the policies that prohibit him from finding that the president committed crimes.
The ethics in government act is still in effect and Mueller could have disregarded the policy.
The whole point is Mueller did not say Trump committed a crime, nor did he attempt to prosecute him for one nor did he consult with the appropriate AG offices.
He back peddled. He back peddled because he didn't have enough to make the charge. There may have been evidence, but apparently the evidence wasn't strong enough.
Mueller operated under authority given to him by Rod Rosenstein’s memo, “Special Counsel”.
Starr was operating under the now defunct “Special Prosecutor” law that lapsed at the turn of the century.
(a) A Special Counsel shall comply
with the rules, regulations, procedures,
practices and policies of the Depart-
ment of Justice. He or she shall consult
with appropriate offices within the De-
partment for guidance with respect to
established practices, policies and pro-
cedures of the Department, including
ethics and security regulations and
procedures. Should the Special Counsel
conclude that the extraordinary cir-
cumstances of any particular decision
would render compliance with required
review and approval procedures by the
designated Departmental component
inappropriate, he or she may consult
directly with the Attorney General.
So Mueller could have decided there were extraordinary circumstances. Obstruction of Justice seems a pretty good circumstance dies it not? Did he consult with the AG in this matter? Did he consult with the appropriate offices?
There is nothing in the policies that prohibit him from finding that the president committed crimes.
The ethics in government act is still in effect and Mueller could have disregarded the policy.
The whole point is Mueller did not say Trump committed a crime, nor did he attempt to prosecute him for one nor did he consult with the appropriate AG offices.
He back peddled. He back peddled because he didn't have enough to make the charge. There may have been evidence, but apparently the evidence wasn't strong enough.
You brought up Hillary rather than answer my question. It's called the art of deflection.This really isn't about Hillary.
I'm not on the left. I'd consider myself centre right. So please stop generalising and creating an us vs them scenario.It's about the constant hypocrisy of the left.
I think it is pretty telling that Napolitano states Trump has committed the obstruction crime. My view of Napolitano is that he has right wing tendencies. But of course his opinion isn't definitive.They poo poo prosecutors and Napolitano when they said they believed Clinton committed a crime, but the use of then whole heartedly believe them when they say Trump committed a crime.
Your point about bringing this up all the time is meaningless. Meaningless because everyone knows this is the case, noone disagrees with you. It would be like you going around telling everyone the sky is blue. We already know, and we also know that the weather can change, just as we all know that congress is currently deciding what to do.It's true but meaningless when no one who matters has accused him of committing a crime?
Fustrated would be too big a word for it. I've never ever voted Democrat as I'm not a USA person. Never been to a Democrat rally, never donated money to them. I couldn't care less if Democrats or Republicans rule your country.You must really be frustrated with the Democratic controlled house. Some of them are all hat and no cattle. While the rest are just lame.
Not formally, not yet. But again this point of yours is trivial and pointless. Noone is arguing this with you.Maybe Trump did commit a crime. If he did he should pay for it. But at this point no one who counts has accused him of such.
Whose whinning?If your not going to do something about it quit whining.
Because he followed the instructions that were given to him and policy.changes and means nothing -
Star labeled 11 felonies that Clinton committed
Mueller labeled nothing
why?
Well that speaks to the quality of person that Starr was.Wrong Starr had the same policy that Mueller had. This policy was in effect since the 70s. The fact is Starr elected not to adhere to that.
Please show in Murllers mandate where it stated he HAD to follow the policy. Please show in Starts mandate where he was told he didn't have to.
Your point about bringing this up all the time is meaningless. Meaningless because everyone knows this is the case, noone disagrees with you. It would be like you going around telling everyone the sky is blue. We already know, and we also know that the weather can change, just as we all know that congress is currently deciding what to do.
Because he followed the instructions that were given to him and policy.
My, MINDBLOWING question:
What were the instructions given to Ken Star and what was the policy at the time?
Mueller has not said "Trump did nothing": WHY?
This discussion isn't about whether any formal accusations of Obstruction have already been made.Then what is this discussion about if everyone agrees with me?
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