If the year was 360 days long...

Mike Elphick · May 4, 2010

dad said:
Mike Elphick said:

There are not my words, but if I had written them I might have substituted 'resulting from' for 'caused by'.

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So, then, to result from something, such as what happens now in the present, we need the same thing in the past. You have no idea if the present state existed or not then.

Your standard, boring response! You read somewhere about Charles Lyell's 1830 concept of uniformitarianism and the 20th century creationist's rejection of it in favour of catastrophism and you came up with your own lazy blanket excuse that avoids facing evidence not only regarding past events, but, by projection, any future prediction that scientists make. Thus whatever an evillusionist presents as evidence, all you need do is to blow out a thick cloud of your own brand of uniformitarianism obfuscation and you can proudly walk away undefeated.

So it was a different sun (or the sun gave out a different light), you said so yourself:-

dad said:
Because our present lights need not be the ones Adam saw.

dad said:
Mike Elphick said:

As the Earth rotates and orbits the sun, the angle of the sun's rays change. Stromalites are large colonies of mainly blue-green algae. Because their growth depend on the sun, you get more growth on the side where the sun is shining so the algae grow and multiply on that side and consequently the colony bends away from the sun

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Who says that they used to depend on the sun? All you are saying is that they now depend on the sun.

Indeed, plants these days, do depend on the sun, but 'then' they were burning up the Earth's radioactive isotopes as part of God's plan of accelerated decay to deceive the evillusionists.

dad said:
Mike Elphick said:

in other words the inclination of the colony changes This is called heliotropic growth and can be used to estimate the obliquity of the ecliptic (Earth's axial tilt) and also the number of days in the year.

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Complete unfounded speculation unless this present state was in effect. That...science does not know, and can not prove.

After 5 years in the forum, you should know by now that 'proof' is for mathematics and alcohol, NOT for science. Back 'then' in Adam's world the stromalites were stools for angels nice and warm from accelerated nuclear decay.

dad said:
Mike Elphick said:

In summary, the sun caused it. Of course there may have been a different sun or the algae might have grown in moonlight, but I don't think so.

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Who cares what you think?? We care what you know. The sun was the same, however light likely was not. Neither was photosynthesis, which uses light. Not if the bible is right--and science can't say either way. So please, present your speculation as such.

I think you mean what I don't think. I don't suppose many people take much notice of my posts, but then they're not designed, like yours, to be quite so provocative and repetitive. BTW, you've got muddled by what the Bible says about light. People of the time thought daylight was not all the result of sunshine, but was a separate phenomenon with the sun 'ruling' its appearance hence light appeared before the sun and moon were created.

Split Rock · May 4, 2010

AV1611VET said:
Synchronization -- what more can I say?

If a year was exactly 360 days long, a lunar month exactly 30 days long, and a day exactly 24.000 hours long -- (which they very-well could have been) -- then what jimmied up our orbits?

Nothing is in sync -- that's why we have the solar year, tropical year, sideral year, anomalistic year, draconic year, vague year, heliacal year, sothic year, gaussian year and besselian year.

The Babel Effect seems to be universal, does it not?

AV1611VET said:
QV my last post -- care to reconsider?

I post that before I even read your ad hom.

Reconsider what? Synchronization does not get "eroded." What more can you say? How about something that makes sense? Or is that too much to ask?

What jimmied up the orbits? Nothing. They were never "perfect" to begin with.

Belk · May 4, 2010

Split Rock said:
Reconsider what? Synchronization does not get "eroded." What more can you say? How about something that makes sense? Or is that too much to ask?

What jimmied up the orbits? Nothing. They were never "perfect" to begin with.

Um, no offense, but are you really asking for logical and scientifically testable answers to biblical questions from AV? The guy who proudly admits he has very little knowledge of science?

dad · May 4, 2010

Mike Elphick said:
Your standard, boring response! You read somewhere about Charles Lyell's 1830 concept of uniformitarianism and the 20th century creationist's rejection of it in favour of catastrophism and you came up with your own lazy blanket excuse that avoids facing evidence not only regarding past events, but, by projection, any future prediction that scientists make. Thus whatever an evillusionist presents as evidence, all you need do is to blow out a thick cloud of your own brand of uniformitarianism obfuscation and you can proudly walk away undefeated.

Don't whine, it kills your basis for claims, that's what counts.

So it was a different sun (or the sun gave out a different light), you said so yourself:-

And...so....point? It seems obvious that present light was not here.

Indeed, plants these days, do depend on the sun, but 'then' they were burning up the Earth's radioactive isotopes as part of God's plan of accelerated decay to deceive the evillusionists.

If you claim there was accelerated deacay, prove it. I have no reason to believe there was any decay.

After 5 years in the forum, you should know by now that 'proof' is for mathematics and alcohol, NOT for science. Back 'then' in Adam's world the stromalites were stools for angels nice and warm from accelerated nuclear decay.

Look, if you wanna get sore because the stromatolites tilt can be explained without imaging present state causes, that is not my problem. Why you keep mentioning some strawman accelerated decay, I don't know. Do you think many will actually believe that is anything but your lame attempt at making stuff up to try to make anything that is not same religion look silly?

I think you mean what I don't think. I don't suppose many people take much notice of my posts, but then they're not designed, like yours, to be quite so provocative and repetitive.

The only reason I have to repeat anything, is because you guys keep wildly hand waving same state religion like a bangy, and need to be reminded you don't have a leg to stand on.

BTW, you've got muddled by what the Bible says about light. People of the time thought daylight was not all the result of sunshine, but was a separate phenomenon with the sun 'ruling' its appearance hence light appeared before the sun and moon were created.

I know light was here before the sun. No news there, you seem muddled.

kharisym · May 4, 2010

If the year were exactly 360 days long, then the phoeniceans would be gods. ( They gave us all the base-60 stuff we use. )

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