VirOptimus
A nihilist who cares.
If You want to preach there are other parts of CF for that. Your inept, childish threats are humorous but not welcome.
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Well we will find out who is right in the end won't we! but if I am right (the if is for your benefit) you will have died lost. You can know Jesus now and experience His forgiveness and love!!
Well they have also acted as the falsifiers of evolutionary hypotheses! Showing why the hypotheses fail the scientific method and simply cannot have occurred based on all the empirically proved knowledge we have !
How so?
Huh? I'm not sure what you're talking about. You're again trying to put words in people's mouths. You do that a lot I've noticed. It's a bad habit.
You're missing the point. A "tail" is not common here in the sense that all aquatic animals have identical tails. The functional design of tails in whales for instance is different than in fish. This corresponds with the difference in undulation with respect to their movement.
So the question is why don't all aquatic animals have the same common design for the same function? They clearly have different designs.
Right, and it's the differences that are critical. How does one explain differences with "common design"?
The meteor would've sent fiery death raining across the entire planet. It would've covered the Earth in darkness for nearly a decade. It would've filled the atmosphere with toxic gases. It would've had a bigger impact on life than the flood.
And the Bible doesn't say a word about this for...reasons? It mentions the rain, but not the hellfire coming down from the sky and the sun being blotted out for years?
And why would God need to do that in the first place?
Nope. If the Earth has millions of years to recover, that's fine. If it has only a few hundred years...that's a problem.
You dont know that. The Bible doesn't say that. Science doesn't say that. Nothing says that. There is not a single shred of evidence you can present to support that. It's literally just something you made up, probably on the spot, without even thinking about for more than two seconds.
And it's silly. Why would man sinning causes millions of rocks to appear in space? That does not logically follow.
The only terrestrial impact crater that is certainly larger than Chicxulub (note the spelling) is the Vredefort crater in South Africa, which had an original diameter of more than 300 kilometres. However, it is about 2023 million years old; this means that it was formed during the Early Proterozoic era, about 1400 or 1500 million years before the evolution of multi-cellular organisms with hard parts that could be easily fossilised. If the Vredefort impact caused a mass extinction it would have affected only the micro-organisms that lived at the time, and it would be very difficult for geologists to find the extinction horizon, particularly after all the tectonic activity and erosion during later Proterozoic and Phanerozoic time.
The Sudbury crater in Ontario may be larger than Chicxulub; authorities quote diameters between 140 and 250 km, whereas the diameter of Chicxulub is about 150 km. However, Sudbury was formed 1849 million years ago, again during the Early Proterozoic era, so there would be the same difficulties in detecting an associated mass extinction.
The only other craters that are similar in size to Chicxulub are the Manicouagan crater in Quebec and Popigai in Siberia; both are about 100 km in diameter. There is no mass extinction associated with the Manicouagan impact, but Popigai has been linked to the Eocene-Oligocene boundary extinctions 33.9 million years ago.
Do you know what meteors actually are? According to The Oxford Dictionary of Astronomy, a meteor is 'a brief streak of light in the Earth's upper atmosphere ... produced by the high-speed entry of a small fragment of interplanetary debris (a meteoroid).' On a clear night one can see about ten meteors per hour. They are pretty things, and completely harmless; they come from the ablation of dust particles derived from the break-up of comets.
Meteor showers, such as the Lyrids, the Perseids, the Leonids and the Geminids, happen at intervals during the year, when the Earth crosses the orbit of the stream of debris left by a comet. Usually they produce rates of between 10 and 100 meteors per hour, but on rare occasions tens of thousands of meteors can appear in an hour. These showers are interesting to watch, and again they are completely harmless.
Meteorites are quite different. They are stones that have fallen to Earth from interplanetary space, and they are derived from asteroids rather than from comets. Some of them produce spectacular fireballs and detonations in their passage through the atmosphere, but others, such as the Glatton meteorite of 1991, arrive without these dramatic accompaniments. Most meteorites are small, weighing only a few kilograms, but they are of great interest as a source of information about asteroids and the early history of the solar system.
Which of these different phenomena do you think are the result of God's curse on creation, and how do you think that this curse made them come into existence?
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I do know thqat god ordered the natural laws and all things function according o to those laws. So a meteor will be attracted by gravity and be pulled into the object that is pulling on it! etc.etc.
It occurred to me you might be. I wonder if creationists are not generally. As I understand the Dispensationalist religion, it depends on the Bible being a complete and accurate history of the world from Creation to the Last Trump. That would explain the creationists' preoccupation with a literal Genesis.As so many on your side say- they are a bunch of illiterate goat herders. Well they sure are adept writers for goat herders.
It is an etiology. It also anthropomorphizes a snake (though I would doubt that as demons have been historically known to possess animals.
And a study of Biblical history would show that prior to writing things down on vellum, papyri, skins or stiels, many accounts passed down were done with a cadence as it is easier to remember (so much for just blurting out boring mundane facts eh?)
So any things done in sing song fashion you consider outside the realm of history?? And what puns are you referring to ?
Yes I am pre mil, pre trib, 5 point , literal hermeneutic, dispensation fundamental believer. I think I got all the tags they confer on me that can be written publicly without censoring.
LOL! I'm not even a Protestant.So are you a covenantal allegorical believer then?
Well I don't know if He did! A meteor does make a certain sense.
1. Before moisture can fall as rain it has to condense around a grain of matter.
2. The fountains of the great deep were broken open (probably the cause of the greatest amount of water in the flood)
3. Something had to hurl globally much particulate matter into the atmosphere to start the first rain storm
Yes a huge comet would be a massive fiery ordeal, but with the massive subterranean fountains spewing and a huge deluge taking place- the fires would have been short lived.
Bottom line- it is just a hypothesis in many YEC research papers. Simply because it has an expected cause and effect scenario.
As was pointed out, life wasn’t complex all the time.Well ELE does not discriminate- it destroys all it comes in contact with. The poisoned atmosphere would kill all that had survived the tectonic, volcanic, impact events. And if any species happened to survive those events ( most likely just fishes and then deep sea fish) they would have had to kick start evolution all over again.
And we have not had millions of years!
Well if God caused it to happen because of mans rebellion it is not silly- no matter how silly you think it is!
Rom. 8:
19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.
20 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,
21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.
22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.
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word creature and creation here is the same-Ktisis and should be translated as creation!
simple reason is that animals will not be restored. And God said He will create a new heaven and new earth.
All of them are the result of God cursing the universe, just like supernovae!
well as I see no link to the romanov study in the above mentioned article or their linked footnotes- I don't know why you are using that to make accusations against ICR.
Or are you just making a strawman and accusing ICR of making a strawman.
So warning people of the certain consequences of continuing to follow a certain path is a threat to you?
So you would consider it a threat if a person was standing on a side road and told you the bridge is out and if you went down that road you would drown?
Well your simple little statement underlies your extreme benightedness as to creationism and what and the level of research they do!
Well they have also acted as the falsifiers of evolutionary hypotheses! Showing why the hypotheses fail the scientific method and simply cannot have occurred based on all the empirically proved knowledge we have !
If you want I can search your words and quote them here. Granted saying you are calling her a liar is not the most pc way to say it- but you are calling her a liar by your statement.
Why don't all land dwellers have the same kind of legs? Common design (legs) for common purpose, different structure (how the common design is used) for different creatures.
Once again even in near identical things that are used for the same reason we can create categories to note differences. But you miss the point that they all use tails for propulsion, there are different styles of tails and different methods of how they cause propulsion but they are still all tails.
Because you are conflate common and identical!
Its like tires- Mack trucks have tires. Mini coopers have tires- they both have tires (common design for a common purpose- travelling the roads) But the tires are very different from each other to meet the need of each type of car using the same thing- a tire!
If You want to preach there are other parts of CF for that. Your inept, childish threats are humorous but not welcome.
This is a creation forum thread and you can't talk about creation without the Creator!
Are you seriously asking science to accept magic as an answer?
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