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I think life is meant to be endured, not enjoyed.

Do you believe life is meant to be enjoyed or endured?

  • Neither. There must be something else.

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So what was the point of your post then and how did it relate to the post you quoted? Was the idea simply to belittle the religious beliefs of others and get a chance to call the Christian's God "it"?
 
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I do not see it as a command at all. Why command someone to do what they want to do anyway. No It is permission, not command. It is God telling them he approves.
You cannot tell from any English version what is a command and what is not.

In the Hebrew it is a command. It has been recognized by Rabbis as such for well over 2000 years.

From the Chabad website:

The first mitzvah [command] in the Torah is "to be fruitful and multiply." As the verse in Genesis1 states: "And G‑d said to them, 'Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth...'" After the Flood, G‑d repeated this commandment to Noah: "And G‑d blessed Noah and his sons, and He said to them: 'Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth.'"

This mitzvah is considered a "great mitzvah" and in some cases even overrides certain other laws.

Furthermore, by having children one is actually hastening the ultimate redemption. In the words of the Talmud, "The son of David [Moshiach] will not come until there are no more souls in the [Heavenly storage house called] guf." In a similar vein, the Midrash tells us: "Just like the Jews were redeemed from Egypt in the merit of their having children, so too they will be redeemed in the future in the merit of having children."

One who intentionally does not fulfill this mitzvah is considered analogous to a murderer – for he, too, has depleted life – and is said to be minimizing the Divine presence in this world. From this we understand that one who does fulfill this mitzvah is increasing the Divine presence in this world.​
 
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So what was the point of your post then and how did it relate to the post you quoted? Was the idea simply to belittle the religious beliefs of others and get a chance to call the Christian's God "it"?
There was no intent to belittle.

My post to jayem was a statement of fact that I do not know, and of surprise that jayem, listed as an Atheist, would write in a way which suggested that he believes in the Christian God.
 
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There was no intent to belittle.

My post to jayem was a statement of fact that I do not know, and of surprise that jayem, listed as an Atheist, would write in a way which suggested that he believes in the Christian God.

I do not believe in the existence of the Abrahamic, i.e., Judeo-Christian god, or any god. The topic of this thread is the purpose of life. I was just remarking on the Genesis legend. It could be interpreted that the Abrahamic god's instructions to the supposedly first human beings correspond to the biological imperative of all life. Which is to reproduce itself. In no way am I suggesting that this confirms the veracity of the Bible. On the contary, virtually all religions have fertility gods who are worshipped and highly revered. OTOH, some religious sects (like Catholicism and some Buddhists, as you surely know) teach that celibacy for the clergy is godly. But if you think about it, celibacy has to be one of the most unnatural sexual practices of all.
 
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In the biological sense, there is only one purpose of any individual's life. And that's to reproduce. To get his/her DNA into subsequent generations as often as possible.

So, why all the abortions?
 
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We have long since "filled the earth". We have been overfilling it now for hundreds of years. Where is it written that mankind should populate to the point of starvation, disease, and poverty for most of the world's people?
 
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Enjoyed, because life has no meaning.

It is the enjoyment of life that is killing us, in the west. Most of the world is dying because they cannot endure.
 
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"Life isn't just to be endured, it's to be enjoyed."
Gordon B.Hinckley

It's also been said that "Life is a marathon, not a sprint." Of course this implies great endurance is needed to finish.
 
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It is the enjoyment of life that is killing us, in the west. Most of the world is dying because they cannot endure.
For some reason your post reminds me of this parable; the extreme competition in this world is killing everyone (the exponential increase in the population adds to the competitiveness):

 
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Same reason there's celibacy. We've evolved brains that can override our instincts.

Well either we aren't killing the unborn fast enough or we are not 'not having kids' fast enough. Everywhere you look there are people........cluttering up the place.
 
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