Russia would have never invaded Ukrain. Had Trump been elected.You only asked for one, but i will add these 23:
Joe Biden’s 23 greatest achievements as president of the United States … so far - The Smile News
As we near the 2022 midterm elections, we approach the midway point of Joe Biden’s first term as president of the United States. When Biden took office, the nation was in turmoil. The COVID-19 pandemic raged due to the previous administration’s inability to confront the issue. The country was in...thesmilenews.com
I also wonder what would have happened in Ukraine with a weakened NATO and Trump openly courting and fawning over Putun.
Would you consider Biden to be a respecter of the Constitution when he blatantly attempted to violate the constitution by using OSHA to force vaccine mandates and forgive student loans? Both of those situations, Biden acknowledged that it was not Constitutional but attempted it anyway.I'm not going down the rabbit hole with you Ooompa so I will just state the following:
I believe *any* candidate who takes the Presidential oath of office seriously and respects the United States Constitution would have been better than Donald Trump in 2020.
Not meaning to derail but I'm curious why it would be better. Can't really counter without some substance or points of reference. Blessings.I think it would be better if Trump won in 2020, give me counter arguments
State issues.
Plus the economic situation started in 2020 and he was incapable of governing in a downturn.Had Trump won we would still have a President who believes the Constitution can be suspended if things don't go how he likes. That is orders of magnitude worse than economic or policy situations we have now.
Well, there wouldn’t have been an insurrection and prosecutions of Donald’s malfeasances would have been suspended for another four years. The statute of limitations would have run out for many of them.Not meaning to derail but I'm curious why it would be better. Can't really counter without some substance or points of reference. Blessings.
My guess is that every Trump critic on here, if they felt the desire and need to actually type out their arguments, would probably type out this post.I consider Trump to be the worst president ever, not because of his policies, but because of his character. His constant stream of mistruths and nutty conspiracy theories have created an awful fad for that kind of thing in the country. He feeds people paranoia and hatred. And he has demonstrated no respect for the Constitution.
The Republicans can do far better than him.
it's hard to judge trump yet as his effects are still unknown (he's even running again) but as of now it would be hard for me to rate him as the worst. certainly the most corrupt, but I would rank him 4th, behind Pierce, Andrew Johnson, and Buchanan. the first and last lead the US to civil war and the first started the US's interventionist policy, leading to decades of war and death. Johnson failed reconstruction, and created nearly permanent rifts in the US culture that stull fester to this day. it is a hard climb to beat those 3, Not even Hayes, whose election was literally stolen, or Harding, who was arguably the most corrupt presidency before Trump could do it.I consider Trump to be the worst president ever, not because of his policies, but because of his character. His constant stream of mistruths and nutty conspiracy theories have created an awful fad for that kind of thing in the country. He feeds people paranoia and hatred. And he has demonstrated no respect for the Constitution.
The Republicans can do far better than him.
You're probably right - we are still too close to have perspective.it's hard to judge trump yet as his effects are still unknown (he's even running again) but as of now it would be hard for me to rate him as the worst. certainly the most corrupt, but I would rank him 4th, behind Pierce, Andrew Johnson, and Buchanan. the first and last lead the US to civil war and the first started the US's interventionist policy, leading to decades of war and death. Johnson failed reconstruction, and created nearly permanent rifts in the US culture that stull fester to this day. it is a hard climb to beat those 3, Not even Hayes, whose election was literally stolen, or Harding, who was arguably the most corrupt presidency before Trump could do it.
O great and wise prophet, lend us your wisdom!Russia would have never invaded Ukrain. Had Trump been elected.
Currently, presidential scholars have him tied with Pierce. Pierce was actually earnest in his desire to run the nation and better it, just incredibly bad at it. So bad that he's been consistently at the bottom of presidential rankings despite his inclinations to do good by the nation. He may have honestly been the worst president at actually running the nation. Trump simply never cared about the nation. It was all a grift to him I can't say I've seen, read, or heard of another president having that degree of apathy towards the country, but he is the first one with no prior public or military service, so that may be one reason. Even those that eagerly sought wealth and prestige from the office still had a degree of real patriotism. Jackson, for example, may have been a monster of a man, but he cared for the US deeply and greatly expanded its power and made it prosperous.You're probably right - we are still too close to have perspective.
One of the reasons historians rate Trump a little higher is because of his ability to influence people. However, I see that as a negative rather than a positive, because he influences people in a bad way. Trump wasn't just inept at running things, he actively harmed the nation with his influence over his followers. Some of the other worst presidents just ineptly failed to stop bad things from happening, rather than make the bad things happen themselves.it's hard to judge trump yet as his effects are still unknown (he's even running again) but as of now it would be hard for me to rate him as the worst. certainly the most corrupt, but I would rank him 4th, behind Pierce, Andrew Johnson, and Buchanan. the first and last lead the US to civil war and the first started the US's interventionist policy, leading to decades of war and death. Johnson failed reconstruction, and created nearly permanent rifts in the US culture that stull fester to this day. it is a hard climb to beat those 3, Not even Hayes, whose election was literally stolen, or Harding, who was arguably the most corrupt presidency before Trump could do it.
Agreed.The State Legislatures already decide who gets the State's Electoral College votes.
I cannot give my opinions without violating forum rules so I need others to get the ball rolling.Why do you think it would have been better? How can we give you counter arguments if we don't know the basis for your opinion?
What forum rules would be violated?I cannot give my opinions without violating forum rules so I need others to get the ball rolling.
I don't think it's horrible--it's great that Roe v. Wade, which I consider either the worst or second-worst Supreme Court decision (Dred Scott is the other candidate) was overturned. I'll always give Trump some credit for that. Actually, he had some pretty good Supreme Court picks, in contrast to how bad his choices for the executive office itself often were--my guess is that when you have people who actually do know what they're doing giving you a list to choose from, anyone can make pretty smart choices, even Trump.I don't see how conservative judges that let states decide issues like abortion is a horrible outcome.
Better than what?I think it would be better if Trump won in 2020, give me counter arguments
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