I Need Advise On How You Would Explain To Someone If They Are Born Again???

wonderwaleye · Dec 28, 2006

Dear Advisors

There are many folks out there is a real serious questions on their minds and It is so important that they receive the right advise when the come to CHRISTIAN ADVISE. How would you ADVISE someone on these questions???

The questions being:

1. How do we become BORN AGAIN???

2. How would we know if we are BORN AGAIN???

3. Can someone else tell if we are BORN AGAIN???

4. What is the difference between being BORN AGAIN, SAVED, or ANOINTED???

Please let me know what ADVISE you would give.

IT IS SO IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER:

X Even though you can't see him, GOD is there!!! O
( click on the x and drag to the O ) ( then see who is with you ) steven

angelbaby12487 · Dec 28, 2006

wonderwaleye said:
Dear Advisors

There are many folks out there is a real serious questions on their minds and It is so important that they receive the right advise when the come to CHRISTIAN ADVISE. How would you ADVISE someone on these questions???

The questions being:

1. How do we become BORN AGAIN??? By accepting Jesus into your heart as Lord and believeing that He died and rose again for you and forgave you of your sins and confessing and acknowledging you are a sinner.

2. How would we know if we are BORN AGAIN??? We know that we are because the Bible says that once we do the above things we are saved.

3. Can someone else tell if we are BORN AGAIN??? Yes, the Bible says that people should be able to tell by our fruits, (our works and what we do and how we act)

4. What is the difference between being BORN AGAIN, SAVED, or ANOINTED??? I believe saved and born again or the same, I am not really sure about annointed.

Please let me know what ADVISE you would give.

IT IS SO IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER:

X Even though you can't see him, GOD is there!!! O
( click on the x and drag to the O ) ( then see who is with you ) steven

Macca · Dec 28, 2006

wonderwaleye said:
Dear Advisors

There are many folks out there is a real serious questions on their minds and It is so important that they receive the right advise when the come to CHRISTIAN ADVISE. How would you ADVISE someone on these questions???

The questions being:

1. How do we become BORN AGAIN???

2. How would we know if we are BORN AGAIN???

3. Can someone else tell if we are BORN AGAIN???

4. What is the difference between being BORN AGAIN, SAVED, or ANOINTED???

Please let me know what ADVISE you would give.

IT IS SO IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER:

X Even though you can't see him, GOD is there!!! O
( click on the x and drag to the O ) ( then see who is with you ) steven

Great questions.
My thoughts are:
You are born again when you ask Jesus to come into your life and take it over.
Being born again is instantaneous. The evidence may come a lot slower.
2 Cor. 5: 17 "This means that anyone who belongs to Christ has become a new person. The old life is gone; a new life has begun!"
This can be said thus:- "Anyone who is in Christ is (and is becoming) a new creation; the old life is gone (and continues to go), a new life has begun (and continues to begin)"

We know we are born again because we know we have asked Jesus to take over our lives.

The only ones who know we are born again are God and the person who has asked Jesus to come in.

Being born again and being saved are basically the same.
Being anointed is being given a special indwelling of Holy Spirit.
But the same anointing which you have received from Him abides in you, and you do not need that anyone teach you; but as the same anointing teaches you concerning all things, and is true, and is not a lie, and just as it has taught you, you will abide in Him.
Hope this helps.

wonderwaleye · Dec 29, 2006

angelbaby12487 said:

Dear Angelbaby12487

I hear a lot of folks give this advice:

" 1. How do we become BORN AGAIN??? By accepting Jesus into your heart as Lord and believeing that He died and rose again for you and forgave you of your sins and confessing and acknowledging you are a sinner. "

Have you ever looked up the word " accept " in Webster's dictionary???

This is what I found:

" Accept

to agree to receive whether willingly or reluctantly

to have a favorable opinion of
to regard as right or true "

Do you think it proper to advise a person they are "SAVED" under those definitions???

Have you ever looked up the word " commit "???

This is what I found:

" commit

to carry into action deliberately
obligate, bind

to pledge or assign to some particular course or use

to obligate or pledge oneself
to carry through (as a process) to completion "

In considering these two words which word do you think a person should use when advising another that should be given in order that we become " SAVED " ???

Do you think that GOD WOULD give HIS GIFT of the HOLY SPIRIT to one that ONLY accepts???

Do you think that folks could be misled by the use of the wrong word???

Does being SAVED mean you have become a member of the KINGDOM of ALMIGHTY GOD.

When we are SAVED do we receive anything from GOD???

How would you advise when asked these questions here at CHRISTIAN ADVISE???

WE ALL NEED TO REMEMBER:

X Even though you can't see him, GOD is there!!! O
( click on the x and drag to the O ) ( then see who is with you ) steven

angelbaby12487 · Dec 29, 2006

wonderwaleye said:
Dear Angelbaby12487

I hear a lot of folks give this advice:

" 1. How do we become BORN AGAIN??? By accepting Jesus into your heart as Lord and believeing that He died and rose again for you and forgave you of your sins and confessing and acknowledging you are a sinner. "

Have you ever looked up the word " accept " in Webster's dictionary???

This is what I found:

" Accept

to agree to receive whether willingly or reluctantly

to have a favorable opinion of
to regard as right or true "

Do you think it proper to advise a person they are "SAVED" under those definitions??? Ok what about using the word "asking" to ask Jesus into your heart?

Have you ever looked up the word " commit "???

This is what I found:

" commit

to carry into action deliberately
obligate, bind

to pledge or assign to some particular course or use

to obligate or pledge oneself
to carry through (as a process) to completion "

In considering these two words which word do you think a person should use when advising another that should be given in order that we become " SAVED " ??? Ok yes out of these to commiting would be better.

Do you think that GOD WOULD give HIS GIFT of the HOLY SPIRIT to one that ONLY accepts??? The thing is people don't have to accept it, its those that do that count.

Do you think that folks could be misled by the use of the wrong word??? Maybe, but i don't think they are going to go run and look it up either.

Does being SAVED mean you have become a member of the KINGDOM of ALMIGHTY GOD. Yes.

When we are SAVED do we receive anything from GOD??? Yes, Salvation and forgiveness of sins.

How would you advise when asked these questions here at CHRISTIAN ADVISE???

WE ALL NEED TO REMEMBER:

X Even though you can't see him, GOD is there!!! O
( click on the x and drag to the O ) ( then see who is with you ) steven

wonderwaleye · Dec 29, 2006

angelbaby12487 said:

Dear Angelbaby12487

" In considering these two words which word do you think a person should use when advising another that should be given in order that we become " SAVED " ??? Ok yes out of these to committing would be better. "

Would it just be better or absolutely required???

" Do you think that folks could be misled by the use of the wrong word??? Maybe, but i don't think they are going to go run and look it up either. "

So therefore do you feel we MUST use the proper word when giving advise on CHRISTIAN ADVISE???

" 4. What is the difference between being BORN AGAIN, SAVED, or ANOINTED??? I believe saved and born again or the same, I am not really sure about anointed. "
" When we are SAVED do we receive anything from GOD??? Yes, Salvation and forgiveness of sins. "

Have you ever read 1 John 2:26-27???

" 26 I write these things to you about those who are trying to deceive you.

27 But the anointing that you received from him abides in you, and you have no need that anyone should teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about everything—and is true and is no lie, just as it has taught you—abide in him. "

What does this mean to you???

Could you be SAVED without being ANOINTED???

Could you be ANOINTED without being SAVED???

Could they be one and the same???

If they are the same does that mean we receive the HOLY SPIRIT when we are saved???

How would you advise folks so they would understand the answers to the above questions on CHRISTIAN ADVISE???

WE NEED ALWAYS TO REMEMBER:

X Even though you can't see him, GOD is there!!! O ( click on the x and drag to the O ) ( then see who is with you ) steven

wonderwaleye · Dec 29, 2006

Dear Advisors

I wonder if these questions might be so deep that I might not get them answered???

salida · Dec 29, 2006

Wonder-

Being born again is essential to be saved. In otherwords, if one isn't they arn't saved. This is when a person repents of their sins and turns to Christ. Then the Holy Spirit comes into their life. They read the Word of God, pray and fellowship with other believers. They have a biblical worldview and so, their perspective is not the worlds but through the eyes of Christ. Their nature changes and desires. They don't have a desire to sin anymore but will never be sinless because we live in this fallen body. One is only sinless in heaven.

Its a lifelong process and a daily one - of dying daily to ones corrupt nature and becoming more like Christ. The power of the Holy Spirit does this. Without it a person can no way live a christian life.

Anointed - is when the power of the Holy Spirit is with them like when they use a gift, in ministry, etc. An individual is doing what God has called them to do after they are saved.

***There is are so many people out there that are christian in name only but they arn't. Their actions don't reflect their christianity. Christians have bad days too but overall they act like it because the Holy Spirit is truly in their lifes. Its like saying I'm a duck but I act like a elephant. A person is their actions.

wonderwaleye · Dec 29, 2006

salida said:
Wonder-

Being born again is essential to be saved. In otherwords, if one isn't they arn't saved. This is when a person repents of their sins and turns to Christ. Then the Holy Spirit comes into their life. They read the Word of God, pray and fellowship with other believers. They have a biblical worldview and so, their perspective is not the worlds but through the eyes of Christ. Their nature changes and desires. They don't have a desire to sin anymore but will never be sinless because we live in this fallen body. One is only sinless in heaven.

Its a lifelong process and a daily one - of dying daily to ones corrupt nature and becoming more like Christ. The power of the Holy Spirit does this. Without it a person can no way live a christian life.

Anointed - is when the power of the Holy Spirit is with them like when they use a gift, in ministry, etc. An individual is doing what God has called them to do after they are saved.

***There is are so many people out there that are christian in name only but they arn't. Their actions don't reflect their christianity. Christians have bad days too but overall they act like it because the Holy Spirit is truly in their lifes. Its like saying I'm a duck but I act like a elephant. A person is their actions.

Dear Salida

So that I might UNDERSTAND this correctly, when you advise folks on CHRISTIAN ADVISE you are saying that we can be BORN AGAIN ( SAVED ) and still need a human teacher to teach us???

How can we be BORN AGAIN if we do not fully understand what we are committing to???

Do you feel GOD would SAVE you and NOT ANOINT you with the HOLY SPIRIT???

If you will look at 1 John 2: 26-27:

" 26 I write these things to you about those who are trying to deceive you. 27 But the anointing that you received from him abides in you, and you have no need that anyone should teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about everything—and is true and is no lie, just as it has taught you—abide in him "

Wouldn't this leave you venerable to improper human teaching after you were SAVED if we were not then ANOINTED???

How would you advise someone on this question in CHRISTIAN ADVICE???

WE NEED TO ALWAYS REMEMBER:

X Even though you can't see him, GOD is there!!! O
( click on the x and drag to the O ) ( then see who is with you ) steven

wonderwaleye · Dec 29, 2006

Dear Advisors

I just got done reading a post advising a person to let the HOLY SPIRIT GUIDE them.

Do you think that they MUST first be ANOINTED by GOD with the HOLY SPIRIT in order for them to do this???

If this is so shouldn't we first advise them what MUST be done to be ANOINTED by GOD???

REMEMBER:

X Even though you can't see him, GOD is there!!! O
( click on the x and drag to the O ) ( then see who is with you ) steven

Dace · Dec 29, 2006

I think this is certainly a debatable topic, perhaps one for another forum?

To the point though, If the person is not yet born again then clearly the priority is to highlight the necessity of baptism in the spirit, but if they already are born again Christians then is it necessary to point this out?

I think its fair to advise a Christian to let the Holy Spirit guide them without pointing this out unless there is some reason to doubt if they are born again? (I assume you're refering to my post int the other thread by the way).

If you're suggesting that a person genuinly born again and anointed with the spirit would not need human advice because they could get all the advice the need from the spirit (am I understaning you correctly?) then I'm not sure this is so. The Holy Spirit is a companion and teacher but I think a new Christian especially needs the help and fellowship of other Christians, i'm not sure that ever ceases to be the case?

With your quote of 1 john
" 26 I write these things to you about those who are trying to deceive you. 27 But the anointing that you received from him abides in you, and you have no need that anyone should teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about everything—and is true and is no lie, just as it has taught you—abide in him "

I see your point but I don't think the thrust of this is to discard human teaching, but rather to discard human teaching that is contrary to the spirit.

wonderwaleye · Dec 29, 2006

Dace said:
I think this is certainly a debatable topic, perhaps one for another forum?

To the point though, If the person is not yet born again then clearly the priority is to highlight the necessity of baptism in the spirit, but if they already are born again Christians then is it necessary to point this out?

I think its fair to advise a Christian to let the Holy Spirit guide them without pointing this out unless there is some reason to doubt if they are born again? (I assume you're refering to my post int the other thread by the way).

If you're suggesting that a person genuinly born again and anointed with the spirit would not need human advice because they could get all the advice the need from the spirit (am I understaning you correctly?) then I'm not sure this is so. The Holy Spirit is a companion and teacher but I think a new Christian especially needs the help and fellowship of other Christians, i'm not sure that ever ceases to be the case?

With your quote of 1 john
" 26 I write these things to you about those who are trying to deceive you. 27 But the anointing that you received from him abides in you, and you have no need that anyone should teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about everything—and is true and is no lie, just as it has taught you—abide in him "

I see your point but I don't think the thrust of this is to discard human teaching, but rather to discard human teaching that is contrary to the spirit.

Dear Dace

" To the point though, If the person is not yet born again then clearly the priority is to highlight the necessity of baptism in the spirit, but if they already are born again Christians then is it necessary to point this out? "

It would be VERY important to know if a person is BORN AGAIN. Other wise you might as well speak in a foreign language to one when you speak to the about consulting the HOLY SPIRIT.

" If you're suggesting that a person genuinly born again and anointed with the spirit would not need human advice because they could get all the advice the need from the spirit (am I understaning you correctly?) then I'm not sure this is so. The Holy Spirit is a companion and teacher but I think a new Christian especially needs the help and fellowship of other Christians, i'm not sure that ever ceases to be the case? "If you're suggesting that a person genuinly born again and anointed with the spirit would not need human advice because they could get all the advice the need from the spirit (am I understaning you correctly?) then I'm not sure this is so. The Holy Spirit is a companion and teacher but I think a ** new ** Christian especially needs the help and fellowship of other Christians, i'm not sure that ever ceases to be the case? "

The key word here is NEW. New CHRISTIANS need MILK because REAL FOOD will not digest!!! ( as per GOD'S WORD ) New CHRISTIANS must have human teachers and that is why we have the worldly Church.

" If you're suggesting that a person genuinly born again and anointed with the spirit would not need human advice because they could get all the advice the need from the spirit "

Sir I'm not suggesting, GOD'S WORD has made a statement that MUST not be denied:

" and you have no need that anyone should teach you "

What does this mean to you???

" The Holy Spirit is a companion "

You label GOD as a companion??? Think about what you are saying. Where might I find this in the ENTIRE Bible???

" I think a new Christian especially needs the help and fellowship of other Christians, "

You are correct and that's why they are here.

Now I ask you again how should we advise folk on CHRISTIAN ADVISE???

WE ALL NEED TO REMEMBER:

X Even though you can't see him, GOD is there!!! O ( click on the x and drag to the O ) ( then see who is with you ) steven

fenderbender · Dec 29, 2006

Hmmm. WW, it appears that you already know the answer to your question. Maybe I'm wrong, but it sure looks like you have some kind of agenda here LOL.

What's your take on your OP questions?

wonderwaleye · Dec 30, 2006

fenderbender said:
Hmmm. WW, it appears that you already know the answer to your question. Maybe I'm wrong, but it sure looks like you have some kind of agenda here LOL.

What's your take on your OP questions?

Dear Fenderbender

You are an elder and you really might be abel to help me. I am concerned that I be abel to render advise according to GOD'S WORD.

I bear that responsibility to serve my GOD. This is why I need answers so that I might address those in need. I was hoping that maybe some folks here could give me some insight as to how I might advise someone and have them understand.

If you would go over these questions and give me your insight as to the answers I could grow in TRUTH, WISDOM, UNDERSTANDING and LOVE. Then when someone comes to CHRISTIAN ADVISE I might be abel to reach their heart.

I see very young folks with problems that by the words they speak it is not hard to see they are NEW CHRISTIANS. Yet they profess to be BORN AGAIN. ( SAVED, ANOINTED )

Little do they realize that when they are ANOINTED with the HOLY SPIRIT they need no new teacher. They really need to understand that it's MILK they need for the REAL FOOD will not digest.

So just how would you advise them knowing this??? What answers to these questions are you going to give them that will get through to someone that is of the opinion they have reached the supreme goal of a human on this earth???

Many folks have no idea that GOD will make it plain to them when they receive the HOLY SPIRIT. This is GOD'S SPECIAL GIFT to those that know GOD and have " COMITTED " their WHOLE LIFE to GOD and GOD'S WILL. Then from that moment on they seek GOD in every decision. GOD search's the heart and knows when the commitment is complete and then HE ANOINTS them with the HOLY SPIRIT. ( as HE gives IT freely )

But if we fail to reach their heart with this message then we have FAILED JESUS COMMAND TO GO FORTH AND PREACH THE GOSPEL.

As a result a SOUL stays LOST!!!

This is what our FAITH is all about.

That is the reason I really need this ADVICE so I do not FAIL CHRISTIAN ADVISE.

WE ALL NEED TO REMEMBER:

X Even though you can't see him, GOD is there!!! O ( click on the x and drag to the O ) ( then see who is with you ) steven

wonderwaleye · Dec 30, 2006

Dear Advisors

This post covers the MOST important part of a CHRISTIANS LIFE yet I have only a few to offer answers.

REMEMBER that JESUS said:

" WE MUST BE BORN AGAIN IN ORDER TO INHERIT THE KINGDOM OF ALMIGHTY GOD "

Is it possible we really know very little about being SAVED??? ( BORN AGAIN, ANOINTED )

How are we going to be abel to advise others coming to CHRISTIAN ADVISE.

WE ALL NEED TO REMEMBER:

X Even though you can't see him, GOD is there!!! O ( click on the x and drag to the O ) ( then see who is with you ) steven

fenderbender · Dec 31, 2006

Well, at the risk of being pummeled by wisdom, I will offer my humble slant on what I think it means to be born again, saved and annointed.

Born again - dying to self and being resurrected under the blood of Jesus

Saved - basically the same as above but seems to be a term commonly used by those who may not quite understand the concept of born again, e.g. universal salvation for all mankind or salvation by attending church, etc.

Annointing - can be used in two different ways. 1) the generic annointing that every born again believer recieves at conversion that deals with our day-to-day walk, and, 2) a special annointing that God pours out on individuals, in His timing and for His purposes, to enable the individual to perform a certain task over and above the regular "call of duty". I believe that Strong's supports this. I don't have one but I looked it up one time. Also, I've observed the two types of annointing manifested during my experience.

Hope this helps.

wonderwaleye · Dec 31, 2006

fenderbender said:
Well, at the risk of being pummeled by wisdom, I will offer my humble slant on what I think it means to be born again, saved and annointed.

Born again - dying to self and being resurrected under the blood of Jesus

Saved - basically the same as above but seems to be a term commonly used by those who may not quite understand the concept of born again, e.g. universal salvation for all mankind or salvation by attending church, etc.

Annointing - can be used in two different ways. 1) the generic annointing that every born again believer recieves at conversion that deals with our day-to-day walk, and, 2) a special annointing that God pours out on individuals, in His timing and for His purposes, to enable the individual to perform a certain task over and above the regular "call of duty". I believe that Strong's supports this. I don't have one but I looked it up one time. Also, I've observed the two types of annointing manifested during my experience.

Hope this helps.

Dear Fenderbender

" Well, at the risk of being pummeled by wisdom, I will offer my humble slant on what I think it means to be born again, saved and anointed. "

First let's see how GOD'S WORD might effect your " humble slant ":

" 2 Timothy

Chapter 3

5 having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with them.

2 Timothy

Chapter 3

16 All scripture is inspired by God and is useful for teaching, for refutation, for correction, and for training in righteousness,

17 so that one who belongs to God may be competent, equipped for every good work.

2 Timothy

Chapter 2

15 Be eager to present yourself as acceptable to God, a workman who causes no disgrace, imparting the word of truth without deviation.

2 Peter

Chapter 1

20 Know this first of all, that there is no prophecy of scripture that is a matter of personal interpretation,

21 for no prophecy ever came through human will; but rather human beings moved by the holy Spirit spoke under the influence of God.

John

Chapter 16

12 "I have much more to tell you, but you cannot bear it now.

13 But when he comes, the Spirit of truth, he will guide you to all truth. He will not speak on his own, but he will speak what he hears, and will declare to you the things that are coming.

14 He will glorify me, because he will take from what is mine and declare it to you.

15 Everything that the Father has is mine; for this reason I told you that he will take from what is mine and declare it to you.

16 "A little while and you will no longer see me, and again a little while later and you will see me."

Romans

Chapter 8

14 For those who are led by the Spirit of God are children of God. "

So I would like you to go to GOD'S WORD and again define:

" what you think it means to be born again, saved and annointed. "

When you do this we will be on the same page. ( GOD'S PAGE )

I hope you agree that we need to advise others that come to CHRISTIAN ADVICE as GOD would have us to.

While many remain silent they are quick to advise another on just what GOD'S WORD says WITHOUT having it backed by GOD.

This is very serious because they are lost themselves and are guiding other souls to remain lost.

Dear Fenderbender GOD can only be pleased by your intent to pursue this MOST IMPORTANT subject in order to gain TRUTH, WISDOM, UNDERSTANDING and LOVE.

I hope we can continue so that GOD'S LIGHT SHINES BRITE and so that I advise folks properly on CHRISTIAN ADVICE.

WE ALL NEED TO REMEMBER:

X Even though you can't see him, GOD is there!!! O ( click on the x and drag to the O ) ( then see who is with you ) steven

fenderbender · Dec 31, 2006

I'm a little confused about what you mean by we don't require a human teacher if we have the Spirit dwelling in us. Why would God raise up teachers if we didn't need them? No matter what our level of maturity in Christ, don't we need each other (the body) to teach, admonish, etc? To think that we can reach a point where we don't need teaching from our brothers and sisters is the heght of arrogance and doesn't sit well with me.

Brother, your quotes need to be taken into context with the whole bible. To think that you're a cut above everyone else because only you have the Holy Spirit in you is dead wrong. Are you trying to say that everyone else on this forum needs teaching from human teachers except you and maybe one or two others who are the only ones who have the Spririt? If so, that is the hieght of arrogance and you're on dangerous territory. To me, that says you are unteachable.

I get the feeling that no matter what anyone says to you as a reply, you are going to disagree and continue to push your agenda. Why not re-word your OP to reflect your true motive, i.e. to say that you have no confidence in the advice given on this forum because not everyone interprets things the way you do?

This will be my last reply this thread unless you answer this "taught by the Sirit only" issue in your own words. Don't get me wrong, but to pose a seemingly honest question and then quote little out of context snippets of scripture that support only YOUR point of view is decietful.

wonderwaleye · Dec 31, 2006

Dear Fenderbender

Let me say first that I would hope you do not get upset with me. This is the MOST IMPORTANT part of our FAITH as it will determine if we are to go to the KINGDOM of ALMIGHTY GOD and we surly do not want to advise someone wrong on CHRISTIAN ADVICE.

Nicodemus was a very smart spiritual man when HE sat down with JESUS and was well taught about FAITH in GOD. He was also a teacher.

YET

JESUS said to him that you MUST be BORN AGAIN to go to the KINGDOM of ALMIGHTY GOD. He did not UNDERSTAND what that meant. This is still true today.

The Bible speaks about REAL FOOD. Where and How do we receive this REAL FOOD. It is the worldly Church that feeds the MILK.

The REAL FOOD we need comes to us by the HOLY SPIRIT. This is the reason GOD'S WORD says we need no new teacher. Because it would be like going back to the first grade.

Lets look again at Romans Chapter 8

14 For those who are led by the Spirit of God are children of God. "

It does not say those led by men are the children of GOD.

Then we receive an instruction from GOD:

" 2 Timothy

Chapter 3

5 having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with them. "

Now to deny GOD'S WORD that says once you are ANOINTED you need no new teacher puts you in the position of denying its power. It is one thing not to know this but after you have received GOD'S WORD from a teacher and then you deny it you would have a form of godliness.

We do need each other to be a part of GOD'S BODY but we are not all fingers or toes. We have to have teachers as a part of that body to feed the MILK.

No one has said that those that were ANOINTED are a cut above the rest. In fact the REAL FOOD affirms that you must truly be a servant of the rest. You MUST dedicate YOUR SELF to the service of everyone.

When I was ANOINTED and the HOLY SPIRIT descended upon me HE told me of my MISSION. HE told me I would be writing to help the poor. I thought HE just meant the FINANCIALLY poor. But since I learned it is also the POOR IN SPIRIT.

I put my soul on the line to be in a position of BLASPHEMY OF THE HOLY SPIRIT if this be a lie!!! VERY SERIOUS INDEED!!!

This is taught by the HOLY SPIRIT

BUT!!!!!!!!!!!

CONFERMED BY GOD'S WORD!!! ( which is required as per GOD'S WORD )

Now don't you think we need to know how to advise folks on CHRISTIAN ADVICE???

MAY WE ALL REMEMBER:

X Even though you can't see him, GOD is there!!! O ( click on the x and drag to the O ) ( then see who is with you ) steven

shredhead320 · Dec 31, 2006

You may disagree but I certainly interpret the verse different than you do. I think the John is saying, "The Holy Spirit is enough." Plain and simple (and WW I know you like simple ). Anyway, this is something that I think can be used to address people in foreign countries where Christianity and Church is banned. A Church and a (human) teacher and elders are not necessary. The Holy Spirit is more than enough to help us to understand and help us comprehend the Bible and guide us in a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. We don't NEED anyone else. That doesn't mean a more mature Christian friend isn't beneficial. Maybe this is the point you are making? The Holy Spirit's guidance is absolutely neccessary in the walk of a Christian and someone need not "consult" the Holy Spirit but instead, that person's life is fully controlled by the guidance and teaching of the Holy Spirit.

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