I have schizophrenia and Satan tricked me.

JMe22 · May 16, 2013

Hi,
[FONT=&quot]I have schizophrenia. It's genetic, and I inherited it from my mother. She has it much worse than me. Her and I are both Christians. I've been a Christian for the past 10 years. I have hallucinations, hear voices and have delusions. Ive suffered a lot. Recently I felt that God was telling me non-verbally (through thoughts) that he wanted me to take a whole bunch of cough medicine, so I did. But then I felt scared, and I didnt want to have taken it, so I made myself throw up. I needed to talk to someone about it, so I messaged a friend of mine. I told her that God told me to take a bunch of cough medicine. I realize now that it was Satan tricking me. My question is, by me telling my friend that God told me to take the cough medicine when in fact He didnt, is that blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, and therefore an unforgivable sin?[/FONT]

MercyandFaith · May 16, 2013

This question comes up a lot. I honestly don't think that that would count as blasphemy, especially if you genuinely believed it was from God at the time. It would simply be a case of you being deceived wrongfully.

Robin Shawn · May 16, 2013

That isn't blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, and He understands that you are sick.

Inkachu · May 16, 2013

Robin Shawn said:
That isn't blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, and He understands that you are sick.

This.

JMe22 · May 16, 2013

Thanks for the replies.

Is there a difference between having demons and having schizophrenia? Or are they the same thing?

Robin Shawn · May 16, 2013

JMe22 said:
Thanks for the replies.

Is there a difference between having demons and having schizophrenia? Or are they the same thing?

You're welcome.

I believe schizophrenia is a chemical imbalance, an illness. Demons can tempt and attack anyone. Jesus didn't have schizophrenia and Satan tempted Him.

sdowney717 · May 16, 2013

Jesus's own mother and brothers thought he was crazy and came to take him away.
One way to view your salvation is the whole unsaved world is crazy and Christians the only ones not insane, at least ultimately that will be true.

God will never tell you to do something to your own body that is harmful. As a Christian, your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit. He lives there and does not like other fallen demons hanging around. They dont like it either. When Jesus comes on the scene in the gospels, the demons get agitated, itchy hot feeling I imagine.

forGod1 · May 16, 2013

JMe22 said:
Hi,
[FONT=&quot]I have schizophrenia. It's genetic, and I inherited it from my mother. She has it much worse than me. Her and I are both Christians. I've been a Christian for the past 10 years. I have hallucinations, hear voices and have delusions. Ive suffered a lot. Recently I felt that God was telling me non-verbally (through thoughts) that he wanted me to take a whole bunch of cough medicine, so I did. But then I felt scared, and I didnt want to have taken it, so I made myself throw up. I needed to talk to someone about it, so I messaged a friend of mine. I told her that God told me to take a bunch of cough medicine. I realize now that it was Satan tricking me. My question is, by me telling my friend that God told me to take the cough medicine when in fact He didnt, is that blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, and therefore an unforgivable sin?[/FONT]

you think God would let Satan poison you and kill you? Your voices are your voices. Don't ever assume you'll hear from God if all the voices are going crazy at the same time.. and from my own experience, you can tell Jesus from the disease. Just don't listen to the voices ever. EVER. i almost killed myself to become God.. was that satan being allowed? lol

JMe22 · May 16, 2013

forGod1 said:
you think God would let Satan poison you and kill you?

Part of my problem is that I'm easily convinced of the thoughts I have. That's why I have delusions. I don't think God would tell me to poison myself and kill myself. I didn't take enough to die, but it was enough that if I hadn't made myself throw up it would have gotten me high.

BFine · May 16, 2013

God wants us to know His Word, to trust HIm, rely on Him.
You won't find any scripture that tells
you to trust your own thoughts/feelings and or follow your heart.

sdowney717 · May 16, 2013

The only absolutely certain way to know God's will for your life is to study His words in the bible which men wrote under God's inspiration.

Jesus = The Word of God, made flesh, to become your Savior, to redeem or buy you back from the curse of God's law which says all who sin must die.

Jesus saves you from destruction now and in the future for all time.
Satan hates the Word of God who is Jesus Christ.
God spoke His Word and everything was created. In truth Jesus created the universe.

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made. 4 In Him was life, and the life was the light of men. 5 And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it.

Johns Witness: The True Light

6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. 7 This man came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all through him might believe. 8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light. 9 That was the true Light which gives light to every man coming into the world.

10 He was in the world, and the world was made through Him, and the world did not know Him. 11 He came to His own, and His own did not receive Him. 12 But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name: 13 who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

The Word Becomes Flesh

14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.

15 John bore witness of Him and cried out, saying, This was He of whom I said, He who comes after me is preferred before me, for He was before me.

16 And of His fullness we have all received, and grace for grace. 17 For the law was given through Moses, but grace and truth came through Jesus Christ. 18 No one has seen God at any time. The only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has declared Him.

stormdancer0 · May 16, 2013

JMe22 said:
Part of my problem is that I'm easily convinced of the thoughts I have. That's why I have delusions. I don't think God would tell me to poison myself and kill myself. I didn't take enough to die, but it was enough that if I hadn't made myself throw up it would have gotten me high.

Listen to me. I know several people with this disorder. It is a brain disorder, and can be treated.

If you are hearing voices, you need to talk to a doctor. Are you seeing a psychiatrist? If so, give him or her a call, and let them know what's going on.

If you are not seeing anyone, any Emergency Room can connect you with a physician who can help.

I'm serious. This time, it was only cough syrup. It might be something more serious next time. Please, Please, from one mental health patient to another, get some help.

JMe22 · May 16, 2013

I stopped working a couple years ago when I admitted myself into a mental hospital for a week and a half. Then I started seeing a psychiatrist and a psychologist. But I missed 4 appointments within a year so they booted me. I've been trying to find another psychiatrist. I've called at least a dozen different places. Most of them won't accept my health insurance (MassHealth). And the others aren't accepting new patients. It's really hard getting help. It seems it's easier to get a gun or some drugs than to get mental help (not that I want a gun or drugs, I'm just sayin'). My primary care doctor is currently prescribing me my anti-psychotics and anti-depression medicine until I find a psychiatrist to take over.

I've been on social security disability for some time now. Money is so tight. I'm worried about losing my home. I work part time because I feel I can handle it without it causing me too much stress. And I make under the limit of money so I can continue to receive social security. But it's really not enough money to pay the bills. I don't know what to do. I'm afraid I'm going to become homeless soon.

JMe22 · May 16, 2013

Sorry, I didn't mean to turn this into an I'm-poor thread. It's just that with the financial stress I don't think straight. Plus, without a psychologist I need someone to talk to. I'll get back onto the original subject.

JMe22 · May 17, 2013

Robin Shawn said:
That isn't blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, and He understands that you are sick.

It would be a terrible thing to do, but what if somebody said what I said knowing it was a lie? Would it be blasphemy against the holy spirit then?

joey_downunder · May 17, 2013

JMe22 said:
Part of my problem is that I'm easily convinced of the thoughts I have. That's why I have delusions. I don't think God would tell me to poison myself and kill myself. I didn't take enough to die, but it was enough that if I hadn't made myself throw up it would have gotten me high.

Hi there, sorry to see that you're having such a hard time with your condition.

What do you do to make sure your thoughts match reality/what the bible actually says *in context*? e.g. who the passage was written for (just Jews, just Christians, or everybody on earth)? e.g. Do you know the commandments well enough to know what they mean to all Christians today?

I do not have schizophrenia like yourself, but I have a very strong tendency towards depression and still battle with its symptoms daily. (Think of it as a very mild fever.) e.g. I found when I read the Book of Proverbs carefully AND listened to sermons about particular proverbs that stood out to me it answers my faulty patterns of thinking well.

e.g. when hearing commands to harm or kill yourself, what (the all holy, all righteous, all-wise) God actually says:

In the path of righteousness is life,
and in its pathway there is no death. (Proverbs 12:28)

The teaching of the wise is a fountain of life,
that one may turn away from the snares of death. (Proverbs 13:14)

The fear of the Lord leads to life,
and whoever has it rests satisfied;
he will not be visited by harm. (Proverbs 19:23)

Look at how Jesus answered Satan when he was tempted: " it is written.... it is written..... it is written...." Matthew 4:1-11

Use the bible - making sure that you read the verse or passage as it is meant to be understood - to answer these wrong thoughts.

BFine · May 17, 2013

JMe22 said:
It would be a terrible thing to do, but what if somebody said what I said knowing it was a lie? Would it be blasphemy against the holy spirit then?

What if, let's not focus on "what if's", instead
focus on renewing your mind on truth in the Word of God.

Here's some scripture for you: Philippians 4:8
"Finally, brothers and sisters, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable--if anything is excellent or praiseworthy--think about such things.
Sing some praises to the Lord too--- like this excerpt from 10,000 Reasons
(Bless The Lord) by Matt Redman.

Bless the Lord, O my soul
O my soul
Worship His holy name
Sing like never before
O my soul
I'll worship Your holy name

"

JMe22 · May 17, 2013

I feel I have a pretty good grasp on what the Bible says. I've read it cover to cover. When I thought God wanted me to drink the cough medicine I thought that it was to make me get into a different state of mind to better see a vision or something that He wanted me to see. And it says in the Bible that people will see visions, so I thought I was meant to see a vision. But then I got scared that I was going to have to fight a demon, so I made myself throw up so that I wouldn't go into a different state of mind and fight the demon.

joey_downunder · May 17, 2013

JMe22 said:
I feel I have a pretty good grasp on what the Bible says. I've read it cover to cover.

Reading the bible and understanding its teachings as well? My understanding of it now is extremely different to my understanding of it when I was a very young Christian.

Isolated verses taken out of context is how cults/atheists make all their arguments seem feasible to people unprepared for answering those arguments. It is especially important for someone like yourself to make sure that your reasoning is extremely logical and sensible at all times.

When I thought God wanted me to drink the cough medicine I thought that it was to make me get into a different state of mind to better see a vision or something that He wanted me to see.

There is no need for Christians to have visions any more.

2 Timothy 3: 16 All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, 17 that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work.

You can only get to God through JESUS.

John 14:6 Jesus said to him, I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

You can't choose how to get experiences either.

2 Peter 1:19 And we have the prophetic word more fully confirmed, to which you will do well to pay attention as to a lamp shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts, 20 knowing this first of all, that no prophecy of Scripture comes from someone's own interpretation. 21For no prophecy was ever produced by the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.

Last week I actually watched a documentary about how some South American Indians have developed their religion from extreme hallucinations via drugs from native plants. That tactic of false spiritual experiences is a non-Christian one, a pagan one. There is nothing to suggest that any prophet or apostle in the bible was mentally disturbed, high or drunk when God spoke to them.

Ephesians 5: 17Therefore do not be foolish, but understand what the will of the Lord is. 18 And do not get drunk with wine [or drugs], for that is debauchery, but be filled with the Spirit, 19 addressing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody to the Lord with your heart, 20 giving thanks always and for everything to God the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, 21 submitting to one another out of reverence for Christ.

DiscipleHeLovesToo · May 17, 2013

[FONT=&quot]I have schizophrenia and Satan tricked me. [/[/FONT]quote]

satan tricked you when he convinced you that you inherited schizophrenia from your mother - as a reborn believer, you're ancestry goes back only one generation to God your Father, and you didn't inherit schizophrenia from Him!!! 2Cor 5:17; Rom 8:14; 1Pet 2:24; Isa 53:4-6; Mat 8:16, 17

the only unforgivable sin is to permanently reject a relationship with God based solely on His mercy and grace and independent of your own performance - so if you are concerned that you might have committed blasphemy, and that possibility bothers you - then you haven't committed blasphemy.

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