Split Rock
Conflation of Blathers
Most of my arguments do not work on AVET... I know, I have tried them repeatedly. That is why I have tried a different tact. Sorry if you think it is "weak."
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Most of my arguments do not work on AVET... I know, I have tried them repeatedly. That is why I have tried a different tact. Sorry if you think it is "weak."Oh, come on. You know better than this. This is weaker than most of what AV posts.
CHAPTER ONE
You hold in your hand a rock known as, let's call it, Dalite.
This Dalite emits one particle called a Dalon every year on January 1.
Analysis shows that the Dalite you're holding has 10 particles of Dalon embedded in it.
CHAPTER TWO
Absolutely without fail, observation shows that every time Dalite is formed (keyword: formed), it always forms with 100,000 Dalons embedded --- irregardless of the size of the rock.
CHAPTER THREE
Chris T. Ian claims that, according to The Book, this universe has only been in existence for 100 years, and the following converstion ensues:
YOU: Not so --- I have a Dalite rock with only 10 Dalons left. This is evidence that this rock is 999,990 years old.
CHRIS: Not so --- when God created (keyword: created) Dalite, He must have created it with only 110 Dalons (embedded age); but when it forms, it forms with a process that embeds 100,000 Dalons into it.
QUESTION
Would you be willing to admit that your evidence is inconclusive?
Problem 3: AV seems to be assuming that something can be created without also having been formed. If it wasn't ever formed I'd think it would have to be formless. If it's formless, I couldn't hold it in my hand.I see what you are saying, but there are two problems.
Problem 1: This question depends on the existence of something which has not been proven. it is merely assuming that God created the Dalite in such a way as to be able to explain away evidence that goes against the existence of God, thus letting you continue believing in God. it is circular logic.
Problem 2: We are face with the situation where God has deliberately made the Dalite appear to be older than it actually is. The comparison was made with weathering furniture to make it appear to be older than it actually is. However, in this case, the closest analogy is weathering new furniture to make it appear to be old, and then claiming that it actually IS as old as it appears. This is deceit, and any God that creates Dalites in the way you described is thus a deceitful God.
Yes, it does. Omnipotence says that a being can do anything and everything. Once you find a logical contradiction, omnipotence goes out the window.
HOWEVER, that just leads you to the next question: how powerful does a being have to be in order to qualify as God? Does a being have to be "omnipotent" to be God?
I say "no". A being has to have certain powers, but does not have to be omnipotent.
Part of the problem is that the "answers" do not answer the question. Yours here, for instance, is simply a duck. You say the question is "doesn't make sense".
You are using circular reasoning: God is omnipotent so any questions that indicate that God can't be omnipotent don't make sense because God is omnipotent.
Go with the Bible (over nature). Natural evidence will mislead you.
[bible]Romans 8:22[/bible]
No it doesn't --- once again, He would not have put what He did in writing, if He was planning to deceive us.
BUT, if indeed God did create the Dalite, all your assumptions are wrong.
Notice that in my hypo, the Dalite that you're holding is not the Dalite that was created; and you would be drawing a wrong conclusion.
Note: I could have made my hypothetical a lot tougher. I could have simply started it out with:
- In the beginning, God creates Dalite...
Most of my arguments do not work on AVET... I know, I have tried them repeatedly. That is why I have tried a different tact. Sorry if you think it is "weak."
Problem 3: AV seems to be assuming that something can be created without also having been formed. If it wasn't ever formed I'd think it would have to be formless. If it's formless, I couldn't hold it in my hand.
I'm sorry, I don't see the connection. How do you get from "Nature groans in pain" to "Nature is misleading"?Go with the Bible (over nature). Natural evidence will mislead you.
[bible]Romans 8:22[/bible]
Since Jesus Himself is the One behind the strong nuclear force.
Yes, God could have created the entire universe with the appearance of age.
Something cannot be both old and young at the same time. You can either haveI am on record as rejecting the Omphalos Hypothesis.
This universe has the appearance of age, because this universe was created with age.
It looks old, because it is old.
Omphalos says it looks old, but is, in fact, young.
Something cannot be both old and young at the same time.
This universe has the appearance of age, because this universe was created with age.
so all that stuff actually happened billions of years ago?
No, obviously you don't. You claim that the universe was created 6100 years ago and is somehow 4.5 billion years old at the same time.I totally agree.
You claim that the universe was created 6100 years ago and is somehow 4.5 billion years old at the same time.
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