Split Rock
Conflation of Blathers
I would consider that an incorrect interpretation of scripture is more likely to fool you. Especially since there are so many interpretations, and we know they cannot all be correct.
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I would consider that an incorrect interpretation of scripture is more likely to fool you. Especially since there are so many interpretations, and we know they cannot all be correct.Go with the Bible (over nature). Natural evidence will mislead you.
[bible]Romans 8:22[/bible]
No it doesn't --- once again, He would not have put what He did in writing, if He was planning to deceive us.
Why? If you won't answer it here, what makes you think you'll answer it somewhere else?
(Shall I put you down for "inconclusive"?)
The reason being that Mr Ian hasn't provided any evidence for God, or that God creates Dalite differently than it forms naturally, or that God did, or that this Book of his is worth listening to.
I would consider that an incorrect interpretation of scripture is more likely to fool you. Especially since there are so many interpretations, and we know they cannot all be correct.
Go with the Bible (over nature). Natural evidence will mislead you.
[bible]Romans 8:22[/bible]
I would consider that an incorrect interpretation of scripture is more likely to fool you. Especially since there are so many interpretations, and we know they cannot all be correct.
No it doesn't --- once again, He would not have put what He did in writing, if He was planning to deceive us.
Notice that in my hypo, the Dalite that you're holding is not the Dalite that was created; and you would be drawing a wrong conclusion.
Note: I could have made my hypothetical a lot tougher. I could have simply started it out with:
- In the beginning, God creates Dalite...
And so you deny that God created! WHO created? God, right? So everything in Creation was put there by God.
Now, you can also take verses out of context to get them to mean what they don't. All it shows is that you can get the Bible to mislead you. Did you notice that "now" at the end of the verse? Paul is saying that Jesus stopped the "groaning and travail" because Jesus has redeemed our sins.
So, since we found all this evidence AFTER creation stopped "groaning and travail", it is reliable.
That's fine --- you guys incorrectly interpret science, too.
Go with the Bible (over nature). Natural evidence will mislead you.
Split Rock said:I would consider that an incorrect interpretation of scripture is more likely to fool you. Especially since there are so many interpretations, and we know they cannot all be correct.
Yes, sometimes scientists get things wrong. But, how many different theories are there that explain the diversity and distribution of life on earth? Only one. How many estimations for the age of the Earth are there? Only One.That's fine --- you guys incorrectly interpret science, too.
I am not pointing any fingers AVET. I am simply explaining how easy it is to go wrong utilizing one person's interpretation of the scripture to understand the physical world we live in.Remember: point one finger at someone, and three point back.
Oh, come on. You know better than this. This is weaker than most of what AV posts.Yes, sometimes scientists get things wrong. But, how many different theories are there that explain the diversity and distribution of life on earth? Only one. How many estimations for the age of the Earth are there? Only One.
Now, how many different interpretations of scripture are there that cover these two topics? Many. Therefore, you are more likely to go wrong with using scripture.
1. God didn't put it in writing Himself. Jesus tells us in Mark 10 and Matthew 14 that humans wrote scripture and that they sometimes got it wrong.
2. The Appearance of Age argument makes God a liar. No way around it. There is no reason God had to make creation look old if it is really young. It can easily look to be 6,000 years old.
3. Are you sure Genesis 1-3 were meant, by God, to tell accurate history? If so, why did God allow the 2 craetion stories to contradict each other? They can't both be true. So perhaps God meant to have a theological story told and to let us look in God's Creation to figure out how He created.
Why? If you won't answer it here, what makes you think you'll answer it somewhere else?
(Shall I put you down for "inconclusive"?)
Oh. So you were playing devil's advocate, then. I see! You believe that God is not arbitrary, but were asking about a hypothetical situation in which God was acting arbitrarily in the OP. I'm sorry for misunderstanding you -- I'm still new to CREVO.No it doesn't --- once again, He would not have put what He did in writing, if He was planning to deceive us.
He's talking about the return of Christ, when all of us will be given our rightful place in Heaven.
Can't do that. Remember, God in His Creation will tell us when we've done that. However, God can't tell you when you've got an interpretation wrong. He can't add to the Bible.
I see you skipped over the reason a Christian rejects your argument.
Lucapsa, I have less than 10 minutes left on my session. Suffice it to say, I have covered these points over and over and over; but I'm going to make it a point tomorrow morning to cover each of these points again.
GOD DID IT --- CASE CLOSED
Go back and take my Apple Challenge, and see if you can prove, via a natural explanation, how anyone can create an apple ex nihilo.
Nature can't tell us Who did it. It needs to be supplemented by the Author, Who told us what He did - in writing.
How is a book of at least speculative origin more reliable than looking at nature? By your logic there's no point to science, the bible should be sufficient. but the bible leaves out almost everything we learned from science. why didnt God inform us about plate tectonics, bacteria, supernovae, gravity or even basics such as molecules and atoms? Could it be because 5,000 years ago my ancestors didnt know about those things when they wrote the bible?Go with the Bible (over nature). Natural evidence will mislead you.
[bible]Romans 8:22[/bible]
Nature can't tell us Who did it. It needs to be supplemented by the Author, Who told us what He did - in writing.
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