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How to become devoted to the pacifism taught by Jesus?

MrJim

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This would be the same as dealing with any sin your life~can you point to something that God has enabled you to overcome and apply the same here?

FWIW I have similar issues...
 
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Nothing wrong with a fun pillow fight. And what are campfires for without marshmallow fights?

I think fighting for sport is different than fighting an enemy, as long as no one gets hurt, like in boxing. The men in my church (and a few women) like watching hockey and football. They break out into fights now and then. I also know a couple who have been into martial arts because it teaches discipline and strengthens the body.

Not all Anabaptists will agree with all that, but my denomination is a little more liberal than some of the more conservative denominations. I do not speak for all here.
 
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Thank you for your insight . I have begun to think the violence Jesus speaks of in the Bible is violence with evil intent, not just people doing it for fun and treat each other as equal human beings.
 
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Well, I am a Christian pacifist, once-upon-a-time Marine, and I love to play Judo (Shodan). Great perspective on Christians and war from Charles Spurgeon https://spurgeonwarquotes.wordpress.com/

It would be wonderful if others would help share that link. I farm, and summer and harvest keep me from doing much on the internet. Spurgeon is a hero of the faith to many fellow evangelicals. Yet most have never heard his words on war.
If you have some good ideas how to get this out more, do it!

Recently the Gospel Coalition had an article on pacifistm and Spurgeon that misrepresented/softened his stance. I politely replied to the post and other posters and shared this link. I was banned and can post there no more, nor on their facebook page.. Same thing happened with my twitter account.
 
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Spurgeon's messages are renowned to be faithful to Scripture and to Y'SHUA(JESUS).
(yet, test everything; even the link in the previous post has some of bad direction (note though, not re Spurgeon) ).
Seek Y'SHUA MESSIAH; Seek YHWH'S KINGDOM; ALWAYS.



Spurgeon Speaks to Today’s Christian:


"Christ’s church hath been also miserably befooled; for this I will assert, and prove too, that the progress of the arms of a Christian nation is not the progress of Christianity,"

"The Christian soldier hath no gun and no sword, for he fighteth not with men. It is with “spiritual wickedness in high places” that he fights, and with other principalities and powers than with those that sit on thrones and hold sceptres in their hands."

"Our kingdom is not of this world; else would God’s servants fight with sword and spear. Ours is a spiritual kingdom, and the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but spiritual, and mighty through God, to the pulling down of strongholds"

"Long have I held that war is an enormous crime; long have I regarded all battles as but murder on a large scale. [“India’s Ills and England’s Sorrows,” September 6, 1857]
Christ’s church hath been also miserably befooled; for this I will assert, and prove too, that the progress of the arms of a Christian nation is not the progress of Christianity,.."

"If there is anyone who should be opposed to strife and bloodshed it is the man that names the name of Christ. Spurgeon considered the spirit of war to be absolutely foreign to the spirit of Christianity….
Modern conservative, fundamentalist, and evangelical Christians, all of whom might claim him as one of their own, have much to learn from Spurgeon, not only for his example of an uncompromising and successful Christian minister, but also for his consistent opposition to war and Christian war fever.--Laurence M. Vance [extended quotes and citations]..."


Another quote, different source:
"The idea behind modern Christianity is basically the end of all things is man's happiness. Man being happy, if you break that down, that's nothing but humanism," Keeling said.
"A true Christian actually loses his life to follow Christ. That's what a Christian is all about."
 
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"A true Christian actually loses his life to follow Christ. That's what a Christian is all about."
As "When Y'SHUA calls a man, HE calls HIM to die...." all 'religion' that is not in line with YHWH'S WORD goes out the window. Only what is from YHWH remains, once everything is shaken(BY HIM).
 
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That doesn't make Spurgeon wrong on this specific issue.
Test everything.
I've read some of Spurgeon's sermons or lessons or blurbs or teachings, online,
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IF it agrees with Y'SHUA'S SPIRIT, with all SCRIPTURE, I agree - it is good.(and convicting, truth, enlightening, convincing of WHAT YHWH'S WORD SAYS - nothing new nor different nor opposed to YHWH).
 
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You and I agree friend. Test everything.
 
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What does that mean Albion? I get the impression it's supposed to be humorous but I don't get it.
It's something that people say when a long-dormant thread gets a new post and starts up again, with some people not noticing that the writer of the OP who might have posed a question to us is long gone. Some members, in fact, are upset and feel cheated and deceived when they realize they've written a careful reply to someone who hasn't been on CF for perhaps a year or more.
 
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Doesn't change that the foundation of Spurgeon's theology is incompatible with anabaptist teaching.
I agree, never claimed differently. I don't use Spurgeon as a source. But as they say, even a broken clock is correct twice a day. (yes I know that's a lame cliche')
 
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