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What have I been claiming? God is altogether just, and thorough.
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What have I been claiming? God is altogether just, and thorough.God will, and how does God judge people according to the scriptures? Does He judge them justly or unjustly?
Can you say God is not just unless he complies with/ meets parameters within some objective definition of justice? Can you show me where it applies to God from outside himself? Can you show where justice comes from? Who are you, oh man?Where are you getting this definition because I can’t find it anywhere?
Who is requiring it?If God is not required to operate according to what the scriptures state then they are false.
Why would we need to know what his fate was?Just like God killing Uzzah for trying to prevent the Ark from falling, was that unjust? No because we don’t know what his fate was.
Have it your way. Nevertheless, the passage does not show that those God has chosen to be members of his Dwelling Place will somehow escape becoming what God chose them to be.Your still clinging to the notion that the author is referring to someone who thought he was repentant instead of someone who was actually repentant. The author gives no indication whatsoever that the person was not repent, he actually wrote the exact opposite of what your saying.
I don't say "God is three in one". I say God is One - Father, Son and Spirit for the Father and Son are One and the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of GodAccording to your hermeneutics, that is inference on your part for the sake of your theology, for it does not state "God is three in one."
So much for being literal. . .I'm as "literal" as you are.
I did, and consistently have, categorically if not particularly, even before you asked. NO, the elect are not capable of ultimately falling away.
I've got a feeling you don't know what @Clare73 believes. You seem to argue with her at times in these matters as though, for example, she did not believe in the Trinity,I once believed as you and was no less a child of God.
Have it your way. Nevertheless, the passage does not show that those God has chosen to be members of his Dwelling Place will somehow escape becoming what God chose them to be.
Which reference are you talking about now? Hebrews 6 or John 15? Either way the warning is not rendered useless by any take on the text that I have mentioned. Once again, instead of submission, you think we have some right to know the outcome before deciding. You suppose yourself on God's level, or he on ours.So then the entire message is useless. Verses 2-7 are completely useless and verse 6 is an impossibility.
I never suspected for once that @Clare73 didn't believe in the Trinity.I've got a feeling you don't know what @Clare73 believes. You seem to argue with her at times in these matters as though, for example, she did not believe in the Trinity,
Can you show, other by such inference, anything that comes right out and says that the regenerate believer can lose his salvation?Amen!! But it does show that people who were regenerated can fall away resulting in God’s decision to omit their name from the book of life, hence “chosen according to His foreknowledge”.
Can you say God is not just unless he complies with/ meets parameters within some objective definition of justice? Can you show me where it applies to God from outside himself? Can you show where justice comes from? Who are you, oh man?
I'm surprised that ya'll thing he is a she when @Clare73 has posted the he is a he.I never suspected for once that @Clare73 didn't believe in the Trinity.
I am talking about what she has said she believes (I was talking about what she posted that she bieved about the Atonement).
At one time I believed exactly what @Clare73 posted that she believed.
I guess I did assume she believed in the Trinity. But you are right. @Clare73 has not stated that she does.
Who is requiring it?
You are making a category error. God does not contradict scripture. Only your notions of it. God is not required to do anything, except by the presumption of creatures. The whole notion is moot. Nothing there on which to speculate, oh human.
I'm glad to hear it. Yes, Clare is debating tenets and methods —not debating her beliefs here, as such. She was comparing the discarding of the doctrine of the Trinity over the fact that it is not mentioned as such in Scripture, with the literalism you claimed to espouse, after you took her to say ...haha, shoot, I'm not going to go back and look!I never suspected for once that @Clare73 didn't believe in the Trinity.
I am talking about what she has said she believes (I was talking about what she posted that she bieved about the Atonement).
At one time I believed exactly what @Clare73 posted that she believed.
I guess I did assume she believed in the Trinity. But you are right. @Clare73 has not stated that she does.
Why would we need to know what his fate was?
Failing to keep the law in even one small point, makes one guilty of the whole law. Is there ANY scenario where Uzzah could be justly said to NOT go to hell for that disobedience?
EVEN if God used Uzzah's disobedience to keep the cart upright!
There is only one such scenario.
Which reference are you talking about now? Hebrews 6 or John 15? Either way the warning is not rendered useless by any take on the text that I have mentioned. Once again, instead of submission, you think we have some right to know the outcome before deciding. You suppose yourself on God's level, or he on ours.
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