Well I’m not convinced that they weren’t regenerate since they were once enlightened and had tasted of the heavenly gift. Furthermore verse 6 says it’s impossible to renew them AGAIN to repentance, indicating that they were repentant previously. Then there’s the question who bestowed the Holy Spirit upon them?
If he means that it actually can happen, then yes, I agree, those to whom it can happen are not regenerate.
Who bestowed the Holy Spirit? Who says he was bestowed upon them? The Spirit of God comes and goes, and nobody can say where or why. John 3. If God through the Holy Spirit wants to do something to or through use of somebody, who is to call that 'bestow', as though the work of the Spirit can be considered and rejected or accepted. The Spirit's promptings and urgings can, of course, but not his actual mission. It will be accomplished, and God will see all he planned come to fruition. You aren't the only one, so don't take this personally, but I keep hearing this from people, that what God does is not exactly necessarily effectual. That doesn't sound like God, to me.
I haven’t said the Holy Spirit can’t do anything, you read that for yourself straight from the word of God brother.
I read for myself that the Holy Spirit can't do anything? —what?
The Holy Spirit can bestow gifts as he pleases, even to the unregenerate, but if he has not regenerated them, "Depart from me, you workers of iniquity. I never knew you."
Ok so your saying that the term “for it is impossible” is not actually part of the statement “to renew them again to repentance”. Ok let’s try that and see how the passage looks.
“For in the case of those who have once been enlightened and have tasted of the heavenly gift and have been made partakers of the Holy Spirit, and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, and then have fallen away, it is impossible.
To renew them again to repentance, since they again crucify to themselves the Son of God and put Him to open shame.”
No that doesn’t work because then the last part of verse 6 is an incomplete sentence. It’s a predicate with a missing subject.
You're placing that idea into a preassembled dialectic by translators. If the writer of Hebrews meant it the way I'm suggesting he might have meant it, and the translators had gone with that, the assembling would have been done differently in English. I don't know how well you know Greek, or at least, looked at the interlinear references, but Greek is not arranged how English is. The translators have to do the best they can.
Yeah the author apparently didn’t think that his audience was this kind of person. I don’t see how that changes anything. The word of God is still saying that Christians who have repented, who were enlightened by the Holy Spirit, and who had tasted of the heavenly gift are in fact capable of falling away. The author wasn’t rebuking his audience he was warning them of potential dangers.
But what are "Christians", even those Christians that the author is talking to? Born-again, or just attendees?
Is it saying that those who have been chosen by God before the foundation of the world, and in fact made for his particular purposes, to be his dwelling place, and specific members of the Body of Christ, and so have by his mercy been born again and sealed by the Holy Spirit, are capable of falling away? Not likely, lol.
In the end, it makes good sense to say that if God chooses someone, they are his. If, on the other hand, someone instead chooses God, they have a very iffy relationship.