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I have no idea what you mean. When I said that God's love must be the human concept of love - something we can all know and understand - you are the one who ranted and raved about the "secret things of God" which nobody is supposed to be able to know or comprehend.According to you, God gave us a truth that cannot be truly known.
I have a higher view of God than that.
More bloviation. . .Minor correction. It contradicts your truncated version of Paul's words, as discussed already.
I have no idea where you're going with this. You start off with a contradiction:Read it again. . .
Sin was in the world, but sin is not taken into account where there is no law (with death penalty, as in the Garden, and the Mosaic law).
Demonstrate that a truncation of words is likely to change the meaning? Again, is this 1st grade reading class?More bloviation. . .
Nothing was cut out, omitted or any meaning changed.
Demonstrate what was omitted or any meaning changed in my presentation.
How does it help me to refer back to my own post?See post #2216.
Show the law given and the death penalty attached which caused their death, as in the case of Adam in the Garden (Ro 5:14).I have no idea where you're going with this. You start off with a contradiction:
...Yes there was sin.
...No, because it was not counted as sin.
Hence no death penalty? Tell it to the dead wiped out by God in Sodom, Gomorrah, and Noah's era.
Truncate = to cut off, lessen by cuttingDemonstrate that a truncation of words is likely to change the meaning? Again, is this 1st grade reading class?
For the millionth time, the law given was on their conscience, per Rom 2:15.Show the law given and the death penalty attached which caused their death, as in the case of Adam in the Garden (Ro 5:14).
I am not following. Don't these words just prove my point that truncation matters?Truncate = to cut off, lessen by cutting
Original sentence: All died in the car wreck except the driver.
Truncated: All died in the car wreck.
I will not be doing "the weeds" any further with you.
The conscience does not impose a death penalty, and has nothing to do with Ro 5:12-15.For the millionth time, the law given was on their conscience, per Rom 2:15.
What role does Rom 2:15 play in your understanding of these issues?
So if God places a law on my conscience, and I sin against it, there is no death penalty? This is total nonsense.The conscience does not impose a death penalty, and has nothing to do with Ro 5:12-15.
And so God attaches the death penalty to theft and lying?So if God places a law on my conscience, and I sin against it, there is no death penalty? This is total nonsense.
The conscience has nothing to do with Ro 5:12-15? Sheer assertion.The conscience does not impose a death penalty, and has nothing to do with Ro 5:12-15.
Quite sure. The wages of sin is death (Ro 6:23).And so God attaches the death penalty to theft and lying?
Are you sure about that?
Here is one rendering:Read it again. . .
Sin was in the world, but sin is not taken into account where there is no law (with death penalty, as in the Garden, and the Mosaic law).
BTW, why would you assume that the conscience is limited to ostensibly minor sins such as theft and lying?And so God attaches the death penalty to theft and lying?
Are you sure about that?
Biblically demonstrate where Paul refers to conscience in Ro 5:12-15, particularly in his sense of Ro 2:14-15.The conscience has nothing to do with Ro 5:12-15? Sheer assertion.
Ithinks you are lazy, but prove me wrong. by doing the exegesis of Romans 5:12-15 and 1 Peter 1:2. And let me be the Judge!Feel free to exegete Ro 5:12-15, and we can discuss it.
Methinks the pot is calling the kettle black.
You repeatedly do not address God choosing only some, and not all in 1Pe 1:2.
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