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If you don't believe the modern science that debunks creationism, how do you justify going to a hospital for medical care where the exact same science is used?
This is lunacy.
You don't understand what a theory means in science. It's a well substantiated hypothesis of some aspect of the natural world, acquired using the scientific method and then repeatedly tested. A scientific theory explains facts. Evolution is the foundation of biology, nothing in biology makes sense without it.
If we taught neither position for any subject in which a small minority of professionals in that subject reject the consensus, there would be virtually nothing taught at school.
Yes, it is a theory, just like Atomic Theory in chemistry. "Teach biology but not the theory of evolution" is like saying "teach chemistry but not atomic theory." It sounds like you might be a bit confused on the definitions of the words Fact and Theory in terms of science.
All modern, western democracy was built on the Bible, the church, and Christianity. Granted, the modern west now holds a predominantly skeptical and critical view of Scripture. But it's not really possible to totally ignore Scripture, nor is it beneficial. As evolution is taught in public schools, if it is done with a total disregard and ignorance of the Biblical foundations of the west, students are done a great disservice. . . . .
I heard all that before. I do know what a theory is. The truth is that ToE is just a theory, in every sense of the word, yet people try to pass it off as fact.
Don't complain about creationism though, because its a valid theory in its own right, its just a different kind of theory.
Do you also reject gravity as a fact because the theory of general relativity is "just a theory"?
What about the germ theory of disease? Do you also reject that germs can cause disease?
Evolution is a fact as much as gravity or germs. Scientific theories explain the facts.
This is the definition: A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world that is acquired through the scientific method and repeatedly tested and confirmed through observation and experimentation.
It's an unfalsifiable hypothesis which means it has no explanatory or predictive abilities about the natural world. It's nonsense and can be demonstrated to be nonsense with the abundance of facts and overwhelming evidence that evolution has from several independent lines of study that all reach the same conclusion.
Welcome to ChristianforumsThis is lunacy.
Kids are intelligent people generally and will be able to make up their own minds about life's great mysteries as they develop. Some of the examples above are about science that has been verified in the lab (e.g. AIDS, DNA), while others deal with relatively recent history (e.g., The Holocaust), so one ought to be able to make a decision fairly easily about such topics. Other subjects, like whether the TOE is actual or just bad inference from available evidence are much harder to deal with unless one is an expert scientist, which is why I want my daughter to hear not only what the secular scientists have to say, but also great creation-believing scientists like Dr Menton. In that way, she will get a more balanced view of the issues.
Oh man.. that's priceless.. Do you mind if I use your statement elsewhere? Is hard to come up with good comical material sometmes.The modern west learned about honesty, fact checking, avoiding hypocrisy, fact based judgments from the Bible. It is honoring these biblical principles that leads us to teach evolution. The idea of determining truth by listening to authority instead of the evidence is what maintains creationism, and is contrary to the Biblical message . . . see my signature quote below.
See quote above.Welcome to Christianforumslunacy occurs on a daily basis.
I would agree, most kids do get it eventually.
In fact, rejection of well evidenced science, is one of the major reasons, young people leave churches.
The modern west learned about honesty, fact checking, avoiding hypocrisy, fact based judgments from the Bible. It is honoring these biblical principles that leads us to teach evolution. The idea of determining truth by listening to authority instead of the evidence is what maintains creationism, and is contrary to the Biblical message . . . see my signature quote below.
I'm afraid I don't see the relevance of this post to the discussion.The purpose of science, Tree of Life, is to check out and test out our belief systems to see if they have a true reality basis. Apparently, you as well as creation-science people, feel that your beliefs should be the sole criterion for scientific validity. But that is definitely not the way science is intended to work; and if you are not willing to question and test out your beliefs, then you will automatically lapse into fanaticism, intolerance, ignorance, you name it.
I totally respect this position. However, don't you think it's a bit disingenuous to teach evolution without recognizing that there is an apparent incompatibility with the dominant narrative of western culture? I mean it should at least be recognized. Otherwise we're teaching kids to compartmentalize and privatize religious belief.
Creationists ask that the schools should 'Teach both sides' meaning teach creationism along with evolution in the science class.
How many creationists here teach their home schooled children both sides?
How many creationists here are happy that their children are taught about evolution in school then teach them about creationism at home?
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