Yup.Interesting. Have you always been a Baptist?
If Augustine was saved, he went to Heaven.
If Augustine was not saved, he went to Hell.
As to where I think he went, I'm not his judge, but if I had to take a guess, I would guess Hell.
Oz, you didn't address any of the points in my post, nor even answer simple questions. You didn't explain why there is no mention of gaps (an idea that has to be made up and inserted into the text), nor did you explain why you suggest gaps when they do almost nothing to help the problems with a literal reading, such as the problem that just lengthening the days of creation week doesn't change the fact that the order still makes no sense, when read literally, etc.
The only gaps Bible scholars have is between their ears, and they haven't discovered those yet.
I took a calculator and worked out the genealogies once on my own, independent of Bishop Ussher, and came up with a variance of only some 100 years.
That's close enough that I just use his dates for the sake of Occam's razor.
Genesis 5:5 And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died.Ah, but nobody thinks that Bishop Ussher did his math wrongly; rather, that the numbers in the Bible are something other than literally accurate.
For example, they could be numbers of honor instead of numbers of literal years.
Genesis 5:5 And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died.
Does that sound to you like it's saying ...
Genesis 5:5 And all the days that Adam was honored were nine hundred and thirty years: and his honor ceased.
I don't need a solid criticism of Augustine.It is not at all a solid criticism of Augustine,
My friend, your church heroes can all take a hike.That doesn't answer or serve as a viable rebuttal to any of my claims about Genesis. Also, you jumped too quickly into wanting to attack my character, specifically background, and so missed the mark. I don't think, I know I am solid ground about Scripture. I have a doctorate in theology and that means loads of serious study time and education on Scripture. Again, you have the right to object to anything I or anyone else has to say. But you should play by the rules and go through their case, point by point, showing how you can offer a solid rational rebuttal to their points. Frankly, I don't think you even bothered to read anything I said. If you want to make an impression or me or make me feel truly challenged, then don't tell me, show me. Take each of my points about Genesis as contradictory and show me how you have definitive evidence that proves otherwise.
Then Ussher can take a hike.You are laboring under a popular misconception, AV1611. Ussher never argued the world as made in 4004BC. His followers did that.
Oh, so what did he think?You are laboring under a popular misconception, AV1611. Ussher never argued the world as made in 4004BC. His followers did that.
What rubbish. So Adam was not 30 something when a son was born either? Jesus was not 33 years old or so when He died? If big numbers are how we are impressed, Jesus should have been billions of years old! Gong!Not that he was honored 930 years, rather he was honored by ascribing 930 years to him. The 930 years, as you read it, causes the reader to be impressed by his life. That's the meaning of the figure, not that he actually lived 930 years.
What rubbish. So Adam was not 30 something when a son was born either? Jesus was not 33 years old or so when He died? If big numbers are how we are impressed, Jesus should have been billions of years old! Gong!
God gave us a brain to use. It's called the Christian mind in action that thinks about what is in the OT and whether the OT is complete in its genealogies. It is NOT, and I've provided you with the evidence.
God gave us a brain to use. It's called the Christian mind in action ..... I've provided you with the evidence.
Seems like you don't want to think much about this issue and the biblical evidence.
Yes Jesus was before Abraham, but not the man Jesus. Your age twisting attempts are refuted.Didn't Jesus say "Before Abraham was, I am?" Isn't Jesus the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world? I think Jesus has that honor.
Those are good questions, but they assume that the truth is an unknown.Creationists ask that the schools should 'Teach both sides' meaning teach creationism along with evolution in the science class.
How many creationists here teach their home schooled children both sides?
How many creationists here are happy that their children are taught about evolution in school then teach them about creationism at home?
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