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Thaumaturge - a problem for atheists!O.K., but how can you or anybody else be sure of that? In fact, you would need to demonstrate the plausibility for the existence of any 'creator', let alone your particular version of him/her/it, before you can even make such a grandiose claim. That's a massive leap in faith there.
How is saying GOD DID IT not honoring Christ the Lord as holy?Why are you not teaching your children the truth of 1 Peter 3:15 (ESV), 'but in your hearts honour Christ the Lord as holy, always being prepared to make a defence to anyone who asks you for a reason for the hope that is in you; yet do it with gentleness and respect'?
Why do people continue to peddle this lie? Genesis 2 is NOT a creation account!I can also make a petty solid case that Genesis really is two contradictory creation accounts written at different times.
I thought theodicy was.Well no, that's a problem for theists!
So the Origin of Species had nothing whatever to do with the origins of species? I said "origins," not "origination. Everyone knows origination is impossible, though many lie about it and pretend otherwise. Origins has to do with, "where did the ducks come from," "how did dandelions become people" etc. Biology studies what we can observe. Nothing we observe in biology would be any different if species grew out of what was in the ark. Cats can change in size, coat and some details, but cats are always cats.Evolution has nothing to do with how life began.
We do. God said, "Let there be..."We don't know how life began.
Christians talk to the Creator directly.Scientists use the scientific method.
That's EXACTLY how evolutionists work. Whenever a new species is found they twist the tree of life around to find a place they can stick it that looks good to them, then they teach that it's placement is absolute fact. This is pseudoscience and that's why they are mocked.Creationists start at an assumed conclusion and then work backwards, twisting data to support their conclusion.
And yet there are 80,000 convictions per year based on eyewitness testimony. When your neighbor tells you he saw an angel at a crash scene, you call him a liar. When multiple people report seeing the same thing you call them all liars. It doesn't matter that they have no motive to lie about what they've seen and it doesn't matter that they may not have believed in angels any more than you do. It doesn't matter that the encounter radically impacted their lives. You believe what you've chosen to believe.eyewitness testimony is the most unreliable evidence there is.
Your question was foolish. It deserved questioning your motives. Care to answer MY question? Was it your goal to ask a foolish question? You certainly didn't make yourself look good with that interrogatory.Care to answer to the question instead of dodging and hurling insults?
Nothing in observed biology would be any different whatever with a created world. Biology is the study of life, not history. Evolution may be related to biology in that it deals with living and once living things, but it is not foundational. One can study biology without denying the Scriptures. It may get progressively harder when they are surrounded with people like you who are trying to push your religion off as proven science.Hm, yes, biology does deal with evolution.
Yep, but I didn't write it. Evolution is used erroneously in the same context as observable adaptation. The difference is that adaptation works with existing genetic information and evolution requires a process of increasing complexity that does not exist. One can study biology and learn about the wonders of God's creation, or he can completely reject the Lord and pretend that live somehow created itself. Neither world view impacts what is under the microscope.Did you even bother to read the definition you provided?
Your statement is an unequivocal lie. Your world view would only be correct if God did not exist. However, since God DOES exist; as do angels, demons and spirits which exist long after the body has returned to dust, then we know that God's word is true. Not only did God create the world in six days, He could do it again tomorrow if He so chose. The words of the Lord are clear and distinct. The presence of the Lord is all around us. The evidence is clear. No matter how much you want to reject it, it's not going away.Saying that species are individually created is demonstrably false.
Which did Jesus teach; that the Scriptures were the breathed word of God, or that man evolved?Christians who accept evolution are just as much a Christian as you are.
Why do people continue to peddle this lie? Genesis 2 is NOT a creation account!
That's a sad story, but it is dealing with the issue I'm raising. To promote a view of the Bible and young-earth creationism, without examining the opposition, is faulty reasoning in my view.
Now, I'm writing this as an evangelical Christian who accepts Scripture as authoritative, not because my parents told me or presented it as the only view. I've reasoned through the issues myself.
I know what I'm talking about from personal experience. I was a university doctoral student whose creationist views were exposed and my background had provided me with no answers. I'm not a dilbo on this issue. I'm talking from personal experience of what one-eyed creationism (without examining the opposition) can lead to.
About a month ago here in Brisbane I attended a creationist presentation (I drove 40 mins each way to attend it) and at Q&A time I stood to ask a question about the days of Genesis 1, citing from Augustine's City of God (he said we can't know the length of these days) and mentioning Norm Geisler's failure to support 24-hour days. I was talked over by the presenter and told it was his seminar (inferring I had no right to ask a controversial question) and to not question any further. I was in an audience of hard-nosed, young earth creationists.
That's my last visit to anything to deal with that organisation.
What I'm writing here is to help Christian parents realise that they can't protect their kids from the onslaught of hostile forces, particularly as they relate to evolution, in the university and workplace setting. They had better prepare their kids with a ready defense long before launching them out of the protective orbit of Christian schooling.
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So the Origin of Species had nothing whatever to do with the origins of species?
Everyone knows origination is impossible, though many lie about it and pretend otherwise. Origins has to do with, "where did the ducks come from," "how did dandelions become people" etc. Biology studies what we can observe. Nothing we observe in biology would be any different if species grew out of what was in the ark. Cats can change in size, coat and some details, but cats are always cats.
Why? Whats the point?
Hmmm. You have a bit of a stunted view of religion.
Good call. Galileo was a devout Catholic.
Sure, scientific theory is never wrong. We are just stupid and dont understand that theory actually means fact. Fact that is never, ever wrong.
Nor the manipulation. We dont really need to discuss how sad it is that people leave the church because everyone doesnt bow to ToE. lol, get real
One major difference. God was there as he created.
What better witness can you have than the creator?
And yet there are 80,000 convictions per year based on eyewitness testimony.
The plan was to create. Evolving came after the kinds like man were here already. Intact. Created. Whole.If God planned for life to evolve, why couldn't some fish NOT develop terrestrial habits?
You are wrong about the internet!
Most of the ones i talk to think its an absurd theory. My sister is a pagan and even she thinks its absurd.
So the Origin of Species had nothing whatever to do with the origins of species? I said "origins," not "origination.
Origins has to do with, "where did the ducks come from," "how did dandelions become people" etc.
We do. God said, "Let there be..."
Christians talk to the Creator directly.
That's EXACTLY how evolutionists work. Whenever a new species is found they twist the tree of life around to find a place they can stick it that looks good to them, then they teach that it's placement is absolute fact.
Your question was foolish. It deserved questioning your motives. Care to answer MY question? Was it your goal to ask a foolish question? You certainly didn't make yourself look good with that interrogatory.
Biology is the study of life, not history. Evolution may be related to biology in that it deals with living and once living things, but it is not foundational.
One can study biology without denying the Scriptures. It may get progressively harder when they are surrounded with people like you who are trying to push your religion off as proven science.
The difference is that adaptation works with existing genetic information and evolution requires a process of increasing complexity that does not exist.
Your statement is an unequivocal lie. Your world view would only be correct if God did not exist. However, since God DOES exist; as do angels, demons and spirits which exist long after the body has returned to dust, then we know that God's word is true.
Which did Jesus teach; that the Scriptures were the breathed word of God, or that man evolved?
How is saying GOD DID IT not honoring Christ the Lord as holy?
Colossians 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.
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