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How many atoms in the Universe? Are they all connected?

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I use to get my son to do a lot more math when he was in High School. But we just did the math for how many atoms in the body and there is 10 to the 23 power. Then we checked to see how many bits of information is on the internet which is 10 21 power. That means if you assign one bit to each atom you can store all of the information on the internet on the atoms of our body. Even if you cremate the body, all of the information would still be intact on those atoms.

With quantum physics a qubit could actually contain a infinite amount of information. This means every atom in your body could contain all of the information for all of the universe. This helps to explain entanglement but they warn us not to make to much out of entanglement. Still with entanglement every proton or electron in the universe past present or future are connected and can communicate to some degree.

Entangled qubits are correlated such that they cannot be described independently from each other. That is, whatever operation happens to the state of one qubit in an entangled pair, also affects to the state of the other qubit.

Yes, it's possible to store information on a single atom. In 2017, scientists at IBM Almaden Research Center in the United States were able to store one bit of digital information in an atom, which is a breakthrough in the miniaturization of storage media. This is a more compact way to store information than current magnetic memory devices, which require about one million atoms to store the same amount of data. In theory, this technology could allow for the storage of more than a billion books of text on the surface of a stamp.

Entanglement enables quantum computers to implement various protocols and algorithms that are not possible with classical systems. For example, it is used in quantum teleportation, which allows for the transfer of quantum states between two distant systems.

Quantum computers exist and are being used in scientific laboratories, universities, and supercomputer centers around the world.

Molecular computers, also known as DNA or biomolecular computers, are a new type of computational technology that use biological molecules to perform calculations. They use DNA, biochemistry, and molecular biology hardware instead of the traditional silicon-based technologies used in computers.
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In my life the greatest discovery was the transister. Before transisters we had tubes. In 1968 you could buy a transistor radio that played the Beatles and you could fit it in your pocket. Now you can put a computer on a phone and fit it in your pocket. The first computer I used was the size of a room.

 

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There might be 10^80 atoms in the universe. Dang, that is 1 with 80 zeros after it.

Here it is in standard notation:
100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 atoms

 
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Dang, that is 1 with 80 zeros after it.
My favorite is still the grains of rice on a chess board. You put one on the first square, two on the second, four on the third, eight on the fifth. Then you ask someone of they would rather have 100 dollars or the rice on square 64. They grab the 100 quick. But by the time you get to square 64 it equals all the rice in the world that is grown in a year.
 
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Even if you cremate the body, all of the information would still be intact on those atoms.
wouldn't you need to read the bits of information on those atoms in a proper sequence in order to have information that is usable? Otherwise you'd have just a bowl of soup of Ones and Zeros.
 
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wouldn't you need to read the bits of information on those atoms in a proper sequence in order to have information that is usable?
That is a problem they need to work out with qubits and molecular quantum computers. Right now with digital computers they used holmium atoms embedded on a magnesium oxide base and manipulated the atoms with a scanning tunneling microscope. This allowed them to encode data on those atoms and then read that same data later. This does not involved qubits with their infinite ability to store data. Along with their speed and entanglement to where you can communicate anywhere in the universe, past and future in real time or in an instant. This is the future of computing.

Computes work off of servers and quantum computers will be something you will be able to access with your phone or digital computer. For now they are saying that is 10 years off but they are working on it. Google and Microsoft are working on quantum computers. My comment had to do with transistors and putting transistors on computer chips which sell for only a dollar. Also I said I can not figure this out on my own. My son and I work together to figure it out. He programs in Pi so this is not a part of what he does for a living. Although he is very much involved in the storage of information that the government wants in food and in drugs. He has worked for amazon, smuckers, Pfizer drugs to name a few. He also worked in programing new furnace for steel company's in Pittsburg. He does not always travel to these places but sometimes he does. They have a new contract with Musk in Texas with their rocket x company. But he has not been assigned to work on that.

I talk to the amazon drivers about how my son works for Amazon and they say he is very intelligent to be working on the robotics like that. But for my son the people installing the robotic were making a mess and their team had to go in and write them up so they could fix the problems. Even though a lot of the problems had to do with loose wires. They had up to 1,000 issues in a new installation in the new warehouses. But the people were under contract and had to fix them if they wanted paid.

He has done a lot of work on robotics. Even worked on some core sample robots for NASA when he was in college. I have a friend that works on a three million dollar lath with three robots on it. He gets paid pretty good for a machinist. It is a different world from when I was in High School. Although even then I had a friend that worked on laser equipment in a machine shop. No one drove $60,000 trucks and vehicles back then the way people do now. AS if it is some sort of status symbol.
 
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Before transisters we had tubes. In 1968 you could buy a transistor radio that played the Beatles and you could fit it in your pocket.
I had a Zenith portable radio that fit in my pocket when I was a paper boy. That had to be at least five years before 1968
 
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I had a Zenith portable radio that fit in my pocket when I was a paper boy. That had to be at least five years before 1968
Maybe you paid a lot for it. The one I had did not cost that much, maybe $10. My brothers had a transistor radio but it was too big to put in your pocket. It did work off of a battery though. I am pretty sure we had the zenith TV's that were transistor and smaller than the older ones with the tubes. With the tube you could look to see which one was burned out and to to the drug store to buy a new one.
 
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I had my own paper route. I was rolling in dough.

I wonder if buying a tube at the drug store for your particular tv as any less frustrating as buying an ink cartridge for your particular printer at the office supply store.
 
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I wonder if buying a tube at the drug store for your particular tv as any less frustrating as buying an ink cartridge for your particular printer at the office supply store.
They never seemed to have the tube I needed. My dad got mad because he hired a guy to fix the tv and the guy charged him $10. He went back to the office the next day and raised his rates to $10 do he could afford to pay the repair people.
 
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Reminds me of the penny doubling experiment. In the end, a person would have $5M.

 
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I had a Zenith portable radio that fit in my pocket when I was a paper boy. That had to be at least five years before 1968
Ooh, that sounds cool. My friend likes old radios, and I like old technology myself to an extent. You must have been one of the rich kids (in a nice way), or worked diligently to buy that transistor radio in the early-mid 1960s.

Was it the Zenith Royal series by any chance? (I looked up 1963 Zenith portable radios)

 
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I remember it looking more like this. It had a nice leather case that was just as cool as the radio.


 
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The point was that tube radios were alot bigger than transister radios. Now they can put up to 60 billion transisters on a chip and a radio can be very small. Even you can fit a whole computer on your telephone into your pocket.
 
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That would be a pretty high stack of pennies.
Ahh, time to do some math.

Penny thickness source: Coin Specifications | U.S. Mint

$5,368,709.12 * 100 pennies/1 dollar * 1.52 mm/penny thickness = 816 million mm = 816 km (507 miles)

Calculation: $5,368,709.12 * 100 cents/1 dollar * 1.52 mm/cent - Wolfram|Alpha

So, a stack of pennies of $5M would be around 500 miles high, or twice the orbital height of the International Space Station.

ISS facts: International Space Station: Facts, History & Tracking
 
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Yep that's it. I was trying to remember if it had ear phones or not
About the size of a telephone today only the cell phone is a lot thinner but still designed to go in the pocket.
 
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Yep that's it. I was trying to remember if it had ear phones or not. Now I know. Thanks for the memory.
You are welcome, brother. Just trying to help a fellow out. That's a nice radio you had.
 
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