How Long have Humans Lived on Earth?

Jerry N. · Dec 21, 2025

The Barbarian said:
My belief is that Adam was born before anatomically modern humans and Neanderthals diverged. It's noteworthy that early Neanderthals looked more like modern humans than later Neanderthals. I suspect that Neanderthals were also descendants of Adam and Eve.

Thanks for your response. It is a very interesting thought, but I think it is possible that Genesis 1: 27 did not include Adam. Adam was created in Genesis 2:5. There may have been sometime between the two, since “there was no one to work the ground.” (Genesis 2:5). So humanoids were Genesis 1:27, and Adam was Genesis 2:5. Maybe not, but it is interesting to speculate.

The Barbarian · Dec 21, 2025

Jerry N. said:
Thanks for your response. It is a very interesting thought, but I think it is possible that Genesis 1: 27 did not include Adam. Adam was created in Genesis 2:5. There may have been sometime between the two, since “there was no one to work the ground.” (Genesis 2:5). So humanoids were Genesis 1:27, and Adam was Genesis 2:5. Maybe not, but it is interesting to speculate.

We will never know for sure until God tells us about it. Doesn't matter to salvation, of course.

eleos1954 · Dec 21, 2025

Dale said:
Psalm 104 is a creation story in its own right. It gives us a creation story with no mention of days and no mention of Adam and Eve. That is one sign that the “days” in Genesis One are not as important as you think, and also that Adam and Eve in Genesis 2-3 are not as important as you think.

Highlights from Psalm 104:

He wraps himself in light as with a garment; he stretches out
the heavens like a tent … Verse 2

He set the earth on its foundations; it can never be moved. Verse 5

Psalm 104 shows us a God who cares about His creation and continues to create.

When you [God] send your Spirit, they are created, and you renew
the face of the earth.Verse 30

Psalm 104 as a poetic parallel to Genesis 1, describing the creation days—light, separating waters, land, plants, sun/moon, and sea creatures.

Everything written in His Word is important.

The Barbarian · Dec 21, 2025

Not everything is equally important in scripture, according to Jesus.

eleos1954 · Dec 22, 2025

The Barbarian said:
Genesis 1 makes it very clear what was there at the beginning, and man was not.

But you can't find a verse that says so? Why not? God tells Adam that he will die the day he eats from the tree. Adam eats from the tree, but lives on physically for many years after. If God is truthful, then it was not a physical death He was speaking of.

Here, you're assuming what you proposed to prove.

There are two, contradictory genealogies for Jesus in scripture. So we know they can't be literal genealogies.

The Barbarian said:
But you can't find a verse that says so? Why not? God tells Adam that he will die the day he eats from the tree. Adam eats from the tree, but lives on physically for many years after

Well, let's take a look...
Genesis 2:17 But of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat. For in what day soever thou shalt eat of it, thou shalt die the death.

Adam began to die physically the very moment he sinned (Rom. 5:12), and he also died spiritually the exact instant he sinned (Eph. 2:1).

The Barbarian · Dec 23, 2025

eleos1954 said:
Adam began to die physically the very moment he sinned (

But that's not what God says. He told Adam he would die the day he ate from the tree. If one has to change God's words to make one's beliefs sound reasonable, isn't that an important clue?

Akita Suggagaki · Dec 23, 2025

While we still have the Smithsonian:

Introduction to Human Evolution

humanorigins.si.edu

The Barbarian · Dec 24, 2025

Akita Suggagaki said:
While we still have the Smithsonian:

Introduction to Human Evolution

humanorigins.si.edu

Soon to be renamed the Trumpsonian, with lots more fake god leaf and a display of Obama's childhood in Kenya.

Akita Suggagaki · Dec 24, 2025

The Barbarian said:
Soon to be renamed the Trumpsonian, with lots more fake god leaf and a display of Obama's childhood in Kenya.

And Noah’s Ark.

eleos1954 · Dec 27, 2025

The Barbarian said:
But that's not what God says. He told Adam he would die the day he ate from the tree. If one has to change God's words to make one's beliefs sound reasonable, isn't that an important clue?

There is spiritual and/or physical death

The Barbarian · Dec 28, 2025

But that's not what God says. He told Adam he would die the day he ate from the tree. If one has to change God's words to make one's beliefs sound reasonable, isn't that an important clue?

eleos1954 said:
There is spiritual and/or physical death

And since Adam didn't die physically for many years after eating the fruit, we know that God was speaking of a spiritual death, not a physical one. That's the death that Adam brought into the world.

eleos1954 · Dec 30, 2025

The Barbarian said:
But that's not what God says. He told Adam he would die the day he ate from the tree. If one has to change God's words to make one's beliefs sound reasonable, isn't that an important clue?

And since Adam didn't die physically for many years after eating the fruit, we know that God was speaking of a spiritual death, not a physical one. That's the death that Adam brought into the world.

With spiritual death .... we are separated from God ...if we are separated from God we die both a spiritual and physical death ... they are tied together.

The Barbarian · Dec 30, 2025

eleos1954 said:
With spiritual death .... we are separated from God ...if we are separated from God we die both a spiritual and physical death ... they are tied together.

Not according to God. He said Adam would die the day he ate from the tree. Yet Adam lived on physically for many years thereafter. If God can be trusted, the death He spoke of was only a spiritual one.

Trust Him.

eleos1954 · Friday at 10:27 AM

The Barbarian said:
But that's not what God says. He told Adam he would die the day he ate from the tree. If one has to change God's words to make one's beliefs sound reasonable, isn't that an important clue?

And since Adam didn't die physically for many years after eating the fruit, we know that God was speaking of a spiritual death, not a physical one. That's the death that Adam brought into the world.

The spiritual death (separation from God) brought in physical death ... we have always been and are dependent on God for every breath we take.

The Barbarian · Friday at 11:21 AM

But that's not what God says. He told Adam he would die the day he ate from the tree. If one has to change God's words to make one's beliefs sound reasonable, isn't that an important clue?

And since Adam didn't die physically for many years after eating the fruit, we know that God was speaking of a spiritual death, not a physical one. That's the death that Adam brought into the world.

eleos1954 said:
The spiritual death (separation from God) brought in physical death ...

That's just your revision of His word, not what He said. If God can be trusted, the death He discussed with Adam was not a physical death. Why not just accept it His way?

eleos1954 said:
we have always been and are dependent on God for every breath we take.

Well, let's see what God says...

Genesis 3:22 And he said: Behold Adam is become as one of us, knowing good and evil: now, therefore, lest perhaps he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever.

Just let it be His way.

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